— Zellner Chess (@ZellnerCrimeLaw) June 4, 2019ILoveGittaBanditta wrote at TickTockManitowoc one year ago:
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Manitowoc suicides reach all-time high
http://www.htrnews.com/story/news/local/2015/09/18/manitowoc-suicides/72421858/
Wow
I was held and beaten with brass knuckles 1982 by JL because MA gave him fake paper work on MCSD stationery that I had talked about him !!!
I don't even need to see anything more.
Add it up.
Beat, shot, fake busts, arrested for Perjury, Examined for competency.
This is the same problem that we had with MA before Re-monkey.
He created a group of people that were not drug related but for minor infractions of the law, then he convinced the DA and courts they were Kingpins!!!
And then dealt drugs in the bars and around 5 counties using real Kingpins and addicts, and protection of them to keep the money rolling in !!!
He destroyed at least 100 lives in the 12 or so of his reign.
Just seeing his name evoked a wave of panic attacks !!!
I'm one of the fake Kingpins whose life was messed with !!!
Governor D wiped my records clean before leaving office, probably so I couldn't sue the State of Wisconsin.
Manitowoc death squad Developed by MA.
I have rescued one person, now a vegetable in a home, PF.
The sequence of events in my life get jumbled up, PTSD from getting shot in the head.
Motorcycle gang's member of the Immortals = JJ
On October 22nd, 1992 MA gave a special 25 caliber mercury filled, brass jacketed dumb dumb bullet to JJ and paid him $25,000 to take me to a sink hole in Cleveland, Wisconsin and SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD IN THE SINK HOLE. I got that bullet to the State crime lab !!! And JJ appealed his conviction, saying he was employed by the police.
Ten years before, MA was strutting around in gestapo type long black leather jacket and gloves with a big fat cigar jammed in his mouth, terrorizing ordinary people he had turned into criminals in the eyes of the courts, while killing and dealing drugs with motorcycle gangs, using the D.A.R.E. program to work along side the real CRIMINAL ELEMENTS OF MANITOWOC AND SURROUNDING AREAS TO COMMIT TRUE EVIL !!!!!
No, SG was trying to expose corruption in the MCSD and against TK, especially, when he got beat by police and smeared in the papers !!! When he boldly wouldn't shut up he was fake suicide:
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/htrnews/obituary.aspx?pid=180607938
Corruption runs deep and wide. MA isn't spoken about or referred to very much in MAM discussion circles. Make no mistake, he should be.
https://www.wicourts.gov/ca/opinion/DisplayDocument.html?content=html&seqNo=8556
FederalesEsMuyMuyInteligente
MA = Mark Anderson
JL = James Lenk
Re-monkey = Dave Remiker
JJ = James Jacobson
SG = Steven Walter Grimm
TK = Tom Kocourek
Remiker and Kocourek are cousins. Just like the police department and sheriff’s department in Calumet and Manitowoc counties, the fire department is also a family business. Someone should file a complaint with the EEOC against these counties. Public sector jobs are highly coveted because they are stable and provide excellent total compensation packages. What a racket! Not easy for those whose families are not running the counties for their own benefit. If you're wondering why Calumet and Manitowoc counties are so insular and so suspicious of others--it pays!
submitted at Reddit by FIB1
Don’t know what category fits this guy. Would like
to believe he was getting sucked into a scheme of misconduct and tried
to distance himself from it. Maybe he is someone who would like to come
clean and redeem himself for his family. Can you help with entries in
favor of each category so we can figure where he falls? Here’s a start.
DUNCE:
When
police obtained the search warrant on Saturday 11/5 after the RAV4 was
found, they kicked SA's trailer door in (Lenk, Remiker and Colborn)
DUNCE:
- A detective who spots a moved or altered VIN plate on the RAV4 and never questions it?
- Reluctant/intimidated to re-interview that mean guy Zipperer.
- Manitowoc County Detective for two years with narcotics task force experience and yet did not know where Avery Salvage was and had never been there; Lenk had to drive.
- Reported directly to Lenk. Had an incentive to go along with the boss. New father who would want to protect his job
- He had no ties to the earlier Avery cases and no ongoing grudge.
- Left the investigation after work on Sunday November 6, 2005 for three to four months. Said wife was having some labor issues and she would be induced on Wednesday November 9, 2005. This is facially a good reason, but for a detective working the largest, highest profile murder investigation ever in Manitowoc County, I would have thought he would have stayed involved until Tuesday the 8th. Unless he wanted to distance himself from the framing. Then again, maybe I am a selfish insensitive ass, poor husband, poor father, etc. to even question this…
- Seemed sincere in his phone conversation with Weigert on November 4, when Remiker was trying to get up to speed on the investigation.
- Went with Weigert to present search warrant petition to Judge Fox on November 5, when Remiker knew Weigert falsely stated in his affidavit that Remiker got the complete VIN for the RAV4 from the Sturms.
- Did not explain at trial his conversation with Weigert the morning of November 5 in which Weigert told him of the boss’ change of direction and that they would go to Avery Salvage where the searchers were to try to get permission to search it.
- Key Manitowoc officer in keeping everyone away from the RAV4 at the Avery Yard
- Reported to be investigator on the girl (Carmen Boutwell) who overdosed in Manitowoc November 3, 2005.
There are a few random things I read in the preliminary hearing documents and this in particular left a huge impression on me.
(1) Consider that police were there the day before (on the 4th) and walked through his trailer with his permission. TH was not there, obviously. Now instead of getting Earl to let him into SA's trailer or calling SA home to show him the search warrant that gave police permission to enter his home, they decided to just break in. It illustrates the mind-set of the officers -- and it was Lenk, Colborn and Remiker.
Imagine being away for the weekend and learning that police kicked in the door to your home and then hung out on your property for 8 straight days forbidding you to return.
https://stopwrongfulconvictions.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/remicker-door.jpg (from p.5 of 8/10/06 motion hearing)
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Partial-Motion-Hearing-Part-1-2006Aug10.pdf
Normally, police will search a home for a day, maybe day and a half, and then the dwelling is released back to the homeowner. After entering the home and collecting evidence they should not have gone in there again.
I understand that there were acres to search, but they could have limited the search to the outside areas once the building had been searched. At least the Averys could have been home.
Instead (as I'm sure you're all aware), they went back in over and over again, and I'm not sure if they did the same at the other homes or not. It was over the line and it does not typically work that way.
(2) Sheriff Pagel knew the Halbachs personally. I'm not saying it has any significance but it was the first I'd heard of this.
https://stopwrongfulconvictions.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/pagel-knew-halbachs.jpg
source:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Motion-Hearing-2006Jul05.pdf
(3) The Calumet police hired a pilot to do low aerial searches on 11/4, looking for TH's vehicle [or looking for the best way in and the best place to plant it]. They did not do them on the 5th. Did they already know the car had been found?
(4) Early Avery testified that 45 minutes before Pam asked for permission to search the salvage yard, a man and woman drove in, handed him a flyer to post in the office and then asked if they could drive through the yard. He said "yes." Pam testified that Earl was irritated because they got their car stuck. Earl simply said that he never saw the car leave the property.
(Earl Avery testimony begins p. 162
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Partial-Motion-Hearing-Part-1-2006Aug09.pdf)
All of this information was included in the motion documents July-August 2006.
Look, from the timeline point of view:
Thanks to this Timeline, I realized that SA was in Crivitz already by 3:00...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/45bqq7/november_5_2005_timeline/?sort=old
SA arrived in Crivitz with Dolores and Brian at around 8:20 a.m. 11/5. Avery left his home to go there at 6am - 6.15am on Nov 05.
Detective O'Neill is from Marinette County and was interviewing Avery at his vacation property on the 11/5 at around 12 pm.
Marinette County Report
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Steven-Avery-Interview-Report-2005Nov05.pdf
O'Neill interviewed SA at the cabin in Crivitz. He was with a local sheriff's office there (Marienette). He was called by Wiegert to find and interview SA after the RAV4 was found.
(1) the fact that multiple searches were done on SA's trailer was the basis for the Defense's Motion to Suppress (available at steveaverycase.org).
(2) the Motion to Suppress lists the following information:
*11/5/05 Search Warrant executed at SA’s residence. LEO spent 10 minutes in trailer (3:48 to 3:58). They then searched garage (3 minutes.)
*11/5/05: LEO entered trailer again at 7:44 pm and searched for 2.5 hrs.
*11/6/05: LEO searched trailer again between 12:25 and 12:48 pm for the specific purpose of obtaining any firearms. They seized 2 firearms, bedding, and a vacuum cleaner.
*11/6/05: LEO entered the trailer again with personnel from the State Crime Lab to use an alternate light source to “point out areas of possible evidentiary value.”
*11/7/05: MTSO searched outdoor areas around SA’s trailer. At 9:57 am, 3 LEO entered the trailer to obtain the serial number of Steve’s computer (later used to obtain a search warrant to seize the computer.)
*11/8/05: LEO entered SA’s trailer to search it again. This search lasted 2 hours and is the one when the Toyota key was “discovered”.
*11/9/05: The trailer and garage were entered and searched 3 more times at 10:39, 11:40 and 11:51 and additional items were seized.
Yes, LEO entered SA's trailer 8 times.
- around 12:00 - O'Neill arrived at Avery's parents' property in Crivitz;
- around 12:15- 12:30 he met with SA and his parents (he was in his parents' cabin with his parents and his brother Chuck);
- 12:45- 2:45 (minimum 2 hours with all the interruptions from SA lawyers) - interviewed SA in O'Neill's car;
- 2:45- ??? - SA went back to his parent's house to speak with his lawyer;
- around 3:30 - search warrant obtained;
- 3:48 (wow, love this :48 specific timing...hahaha) - kick into SA trailer;
Thanks to this Timeline, I realized that SA was in Crivitz already by 3:00...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/45bqq7/november_5_2005_timeline/?sort=old
SA arrived in Crivitz with Dolores and Brian at around 8:20 a.m. 11/5. Avery left his home to go there at 6am - 6.15am on Nov 05.
Detective O'Neill is from Marinette County and was interviewing Avery at his vacation property on the 11/5 at around 12 pm.
Marinette County Report
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Steven-Avery-Interview-Report-2005Nov05.pdf
O'Neill interviewed SA at the cabin in Crivitz. He was with a local sheriff's office there (Marienette). He was called by Wiegert to find and interview SA after the RAV4 was found.
(1) the fact that multiple searches were done on SA's trailer was the basis for the Defense's Motion to Suppress (available at steveaverycase.org).
(2) the Motion to Suppress lists the following information:
*11/5/05 Search Warrant executed at SA’s residence. LEO spent 10 minutes in trailer (3:48 to 3:58). They then searched garage (3 minutes.)
*11/5/05: LEO entered trailer again at 7:44 pm and searched for 2.5 hrs.
*11/6/05: LEO searched trailer again between 12:25 and 12:48 pm for the specific purpose of obtaining any firearms. They seized 2 firearms, bedding, and a vacuum cleaner.
*11/6/05: LEO entered the trailer again with personnel from the State Crime Lab to use an alternate light source to “point out areas of possible evidentiary value.”
*11/7/05: MTSO searched outdoor areas around SA’s trailer. At 9:57 am, 3 LEO entered the trailer to obtain the serial number of Steve’s computer (later used to obtain a search warrant to seize the computer.)
*11/8/05: LEO entered SA’s trailer to search it again. This search lasted 2 hours and is the one when the Toyota key was “discovered”.
*11/9/05: The trailer and garage were entered and searched 3 more times at 10:39, 11:40 and 11:51 and additional items were seized.
Yes, LEO entered SA's trailer 8 times.
By 21Minutes at Reddit
Manitowoc County Sheriff - Robert Hermann
Manitowoc County Sheriff - Tom Kocourek
Manitowoc County Sheriff - Kenneth Peterson
Manitowoc County Sheriff, Chief Deputy - Gene Kusche
Manitowoc County Sheriff. Lt. - James Lenk
Manitowoc County Sheriff, Sgt. - Andrew Colborn
Manitowoc County Sheriff, Sgt. - Jason Orth
Manitowoc County Sheriff, Detective - David Remiker
Manitowoc County Sheriff, Deputy - Judy Dvorak
Manitowoc County Clerk of Courts Office, Chief Clerk - Lynn Zigmunt
Manitowoc County District Attorney - Denis Vogel,
Manitowoc County Circuit Judge - Fred Hazlewood
Manitowoc County Circuit Judge - Patrick Willis
Marinette County Sheriff Sgt - Mike Sievert
Appleton, Wisconsin, Attorney - Len Kachinsky
State of Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation, Special Agent; Rod Pevytoe
State of Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation, Special Agent; Thomas Fassbender
State of Wisconsin Crime Lab, Bullistics Expert; William Newhouse
State of Wisconsin Crime Lab, DNA Technical Unit Leader; Sherry Culhane
State of Wisconsin Crime Lab, Technician - Steven Harrington
State of Wisconsin Forensic Anthropologist Consultant, Dr. Leslie Eisenberg
State of Wisconsin Attorney General - Peg Lautenschlager
Calumet County Sheriff, Sgt. - Mark Wiegert
Calumet County sheriff, Deputy - Dan Kucharski
Calumet County Sheriff; Deputy - Jerry Pagel
Calumet County Special Prosecutor; Ken Kratz
State of Wisconsin Court of Appeals
State of Wisconsin Supreme Court
Members of the Wisconsin State Crime Lab
Members of the Calumet County Sheriff Department
Members of the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department
Members of the Two Rivers Police Department
Members of the State of Wisconsin, Division of Criminal Investigation Unit
Members of the Dane County Jury
Members of the Manitowoc County Jury
Volunteers who found Teresa's car - Pam & Nicole Sturm
Steven Aveyr's brother - Earl Avery
Steven Aveyr's brother - Chuck Avery
Steven Aveyr's ex-wife - Lori Avery
Steven Avery's girlfriend - Jodi Stachowski
Barbara Janda
Peter Dassey
Bobby Dassey
Blaine Dassey
Teresa Halbach's boyfriend, Ryan Hillegas
Teresa Halbach's brother, Mike Halbach
I'm trying to find a list of everyone that's involved and this huge miscarriage of justice in the State of Wisconsin.
No... Seriously... Stop laughing... I am looking for a list of everyone that conspired to falsely accuse and convict poor Steven Avery of murdering 25-year-old Teresa Halbach.
Included in the Calumet County Sheriff's Department evidence list is a series of palm prints and fingerprints from various people, obviously taken for comparison purposes. The only non-Avery/Dassey people on the list seem to be Halbach's roommate Scott, as well as Lenk and Colborn. Based on trial exhibit 498 (report on latent prints), it seems they did comparisons against everyone on the list except Lenk and Colborn.
Detective
Remiker, can you please explain why you are phishing for information in
an undocumented call before the RAV is discovered?
By Rookie1082, TickTockManitowoc
One thing that always stood out in my mind that got brushed aside by some people was the first conversation that Remiker and Wiegert on the morning on the 5th. No, not the one where Remiker seems to document but Wiegert somehow does not...
I'm referring to the one that not even Remiker mentions in his entire report for the morning of 11/5.
You know, the infamous "Niles! Ohhhh I'm just doin' fockin' great
The one where no one seems to document. Why was this very important phishing.
knowledge gathering expedition that Remiker was on not put in any reports? Probably because they contained information that pointed away from Steven Avery.
Please remember that this call was part of the audio CD that was provided to the defense in August of 2006
The fact that this call was hidden from the defense for almost 10 months after it happened is troubling. It provides some vital clues before the tunnel vision of CASO came into effect. They had no reason to suspect Avery because of two reasons.
First: When was this call made? We know that it was made after they went to Teresa's house. How do we know? Because Wiegert tells us so, of course...
Remiker inquires about a flyover the day before. He inquires about tracing Teresa's last steps because he sure is curious to solving this case, i'm sure. So interested in getting all the details that heintentionally forgets to write a report about the knowledge transfer session he has
with Wiegert. But he sure remembers to document the calls later that
day pertaining to Avery. Probably just excited the car was found and
now Avery is the main suspect already... At least Jacobs had reason to suspect that...
Wiegert gives a pretty insightful breakdown of what CASO believed to be Teresa's steps on 10/31. Remember this information was what they had as of 11/05 between 8:30 and 10:30 am.
Note that this is a cumulative investigation. Dedering has had input into this "timeline" and Wiegert tells Remiker that he doesn't have the faxes from Cingular in front of him
First Appointment SS (~1:30 PM)
Second Appointment SA (~2-2:30 PM according to DR)
Third Appointment GZ ** (Wiegert and Remiker not sure on time but Wiegert mentions the 2:12pm Voicemail and Remiker then suggests probably right before she gets there. Why is this important? Because it fits in well with a switched voicemail theory that another poster on here has written fantastically about in the past. If they hear On Teresa's VM that she's having a hard time finding the residence, then of COURSE she left it before she gets there...)
Wiegert thinks that Teresa actually goes missing between 2:12PM and 2:27PM because the doesn't answer THE VOICEMAIL MESSAGE FROM AUTO TRADER THAT Wiegert ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT. Also notice the splicing between "Which incomin" "...Got her" The aforementioned poster also made posts about the splicing in the dispatch calls. Not surprising Remiker prepared the audio CD for S and B, as he would know exactly what to remove 8 months after that call based on where the state's narrative has turned.
Also notice the 2:27 VM from Dawn is missing from the VM exhibit
Why? Well, that's not the question to ask. The question to ask is Why did Dawns memory refresh so much 18 months after the event? The answer is easy... It's because by trial time, the timeline and story had morphed into SA is GAF because we found a car on his property. (And subsequently the other evidence) The 2:27 VM is one of the voicemails that have been deleted as claimed by Zellner hence the story had to change or else it wouldn't make sense. The story changed... Welp, the call had to be spliced or else it wouldn't make sense.
Do you see? The dispatch calls from MTSO, the calls with the most useful information to Teresa's whereabouts were not handed over to the defense or state until the summer of 06. The summer of 06! Enough time to have the story evolve, have Brendan come forward, and have Remiker take a little bit off the top here, a little bit off the sides there and presto, a fresh Audio CD for the defense with a note that possibly read:
Here you go, guys. All of our raw audio footage, unedited. My Pleasure. -Niles
It's clear as day, at least to me. What about you?
Nowhere is the 2:41 call mentioned on this call because it was irrelevant at the time to CASO investigation. According to Wiegert, Teresa is already missing at this point.
The theory before the RAV is found is that Teresa goes missing after leaving the voicemail at the Zipperer's. If we are to believe the Zipperer family and investigative reports, we are to believe that Teresa made that last stop. The question I have is why Teresa would leave a month old publication at both the SA residence and the Zipperer residence? I digress.
Hidden Gem
This is where the fun audio game comes into play. There is a portion of the call that tells us exactly the time and day that Dedering received the location information that included the towers, and the GPS (in reality TDOA technology in my previous posts) coordinates from Cingular. Wiegert tells Remiker that Yes Dedering DID receive the fax, but Wiegert doesn't have them. Dedering grabbed them the night that.....
Now the fun part
Audio slowed down thanks to a user below
What does Wiegert say when Dedering starts saying OK, OK over him?
Please PM me with your suggestions as to avoid bias and tainting the "jury"
This is important as it will clarify either the night of 11/3 and 11/4 as to when Dedering and CASO had the Location records from Cingular.
There are reports corresponding to Dedering that will tell us the night he received them..
If they were received on 11/3...
If they were received on 11/4...
Note that what Wiegert says about the night Dedering took the tower location records from Cingular, corresponds to Dedrring's actions. We need to clarify what Wiegert says to have a more factual depiction when CASO obtained Teresa's location history on 10/31
Being the go getter that he is, Remiker offers Wiegert his assistance... "If you need anything, holler"
Oh Remiker, how "Investigative" of you to know that he'd need a hand... and a key... and some bones... and some blood... and some burned belongings..
TL;DR It's becoming more clear, to me at least, that with the information supplied to Dedering and CASO, that they had more than a printout from Teresa's friends from the night of 11/3 when stating Wiegert's timeline on this call.
To think otherwise, would be brushing aside the most important part of the investigation.
Too bad Dedering has kept quiet all these years.
ETA Zellner knows.... She has taken this information that wasn't used at trial in relation to Teresa's footsteps that she and her team retraced... The footsteps were guided by Teresa's TDOA location history (within 300 meters i'd venture to say)
ETA2 Detective Remiker, I didn't know MTSO original form recordings already come pre spliced
Comments:
[–]ThorsClawHammer
I'm sure I read somewhere the only reason defence discovered the audio even existed was because Remiker slipped up at pre trial??
Yep:
Q. And all of this recollection that you are relating to us now comes from your review of the phone calls?
A. It's a little bit of both. As I reviewed the phone calls, I remembered a couple more things, an independent recollection of that exact date.
ATTORNEY BUTING: Judge, at this time, I request we take a break. We have not had an opportunity, did not even know of such recordings, even though we have requested them. And I think at this point we have got to take a break so that we have an opportunity to review those before I can complete my cross-examination of Detective Remiker.
[–]Whiznot
At the 4 minute mark of the infamous Remiker/Wiegart call we see that both LEOs zero in on the importance of cell tower location evidence to track TH. Of course, that is fundamental and cannot be overlooked. Can it? /s
[–]What_a_Jem
Remiker certainly seemed to be saying to Wiegert, THINK AVERY!
[–]tangent685 5 points 1 month ago
Here is the audio slowed down. https://www.dropbox.com/s/konsrlu6cwnomtv/DRMW2.ogg?dl=0
[–]tangent685
and here it is as an MP3 in case you can't play .ogg files https://www.dropbox.com/s/ra45dh6igfcalz3/mwdr3.mp3?dl=0
[–]Rookie1082
Here is what I hear in it's entirety:
"Ummmmm.. Yes, but I don't have them they came faxed the night he grabbed them and he went up back up the house to check on that fax machine ....actually."
Does that make any sense?
If I had to guess... And since DR or whoever was preparing the audio CD for the defense and state spliced out the relevant information. That they splices out multiple instances of this call.
We already know there's a splice to cover up the 2:27 VM, it would only make sense that to cover up any chance of Dean and Jerry catching on the trail of the phone records (which they were claimed to have dropped the ball on by Zellner -- Now we kind of see the wool was pulled over their eyes).
The two NOTICABLE splices are both regarding the phone records.
Cover up 2:27 voicemail to match Dawn's morphing testimony about actually speaking with TH (about UPS labels and her kids nonetheless).
JD receiving the Location information from Cingular on Teresa's handset the Night of........ Splice. You know, the night he went to the fax machine to check on it. That night. What the fuck ever.
TLDR: IF you'd like to present anyone that doesn't believe this case was a frame up with some hard evidence of shenanigans by DR and MTSO, you point them to these calls, the phone records, and the rest will take care of itself.
Done. Let's go KZ.
[–]tangent685
I'm not sure if you are thinking the splice occurs here but I have a link to a picture of the wav file here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhmdq3l4qsa3jqz/OKOK.jpg?dl=0
It would appear that there is a crossfade (something that blends to audio parts together by fading the first part out slowly while fading in the second part to avoid hearing the "blip" sound of a slice). The photo should be fairly self explanatory but I have a circle in the area where Weigert's voice seems to degrade into digital artifacts when he is saying what we think is "actually". This is not concrete proof, just the appearance of a crossfade.
[–]Rookie1082
It happens right around that circle, maybe a bit before.
Edit:
The splice occurs exactly between Wiegert saying "The night" and "He grabbed them"... I think... The sentence doesn't make sense.
[–]tangent685
Here is the area with "The night he" https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0za9ikb3i7w0el/thenight_he.jpg?dl=0
I don't see any telltale signs of noise dropout or crossfades. I'm not disagreeing with you, just showing what it looks like.
[–]tangent685
I took the audio clip off of youtube and took the couple of seconds where Remiker asks about the tower locations. I looped from where Weigert says "no, he grabbed them off the fax machine" and finished after Remiker says, Ok, Ok. I guess that what I got from it was that Deidering was going up to the new house (I think Weigert says house) to check the fax. Then I played it over and over several dozen times. Anyway, as I said, it got me to thinking that she had just moved prior to all this taking place. I don't know if her moving was related, unless she was trying to get away from an ex or was just trying to move closer to her studio. Its just another one of those twists in this case.
Transcript of Remiker's call to Wiegert
November 5, 2005 9:03 a.m.
Note: Reddit user Altwolf's analysis of this call has determined that it was edited to remove content as Remiker and Wiegert discuss the 2:27 p.m. and 2:41 p.m. incoming calls to Teresa's cell phone. Cingular does not list the phone numbers of incoming calls on their reports/bills, so Wiegert is lying in his reports when he claims to have done a reverse lookup of these two calls (CASO file). There are no phone numbers for incoming callers on the Cingular report/bill so he can't reverse lookup incoming calls, only outgoing calls from Teresa's cell phone. Dawn Pliszka of AutoTrader told Wiegert on November 3rd, as he is interviewing people to ascertain the identity of incoming callers, that she called Teresa in the morning and talked to her, and then in the afternoon she called again and thinks she left her a voicemail message (page 20, CASO file). Of the two calls at 2:27 p.m. and 2:41 p.m. only one went to voicemail, the 2:41 p.m. call. Therefore, 15 months later, during Avery's trial, Dawn's recollection of talking to Teresa for almost five minutes, starting at 2:27 p.m., is a false memory. The prosecution used her to establish a timeline and narrative, and they did this through intimidation tactics and coercion. Her testimony was, as was the testimony of her boss, Angela Schuster, coached and rehearsed by Kratz to put Teresa at Avery's at 3 p.m. on October 31st.
Dispatch: Calumet County Sheriff's Department.
Remiker: Good morning, this is Det. Remiker with Manitowoc County.
Dispatch: Good Morning.
Remiker: Is Wiegert or Dedering in at all?
Dispatch: Yes, I believe Wiegert's in his office, hold just a moment.
Wiegert: Niles...Hey.
Remiker: Hey, how you doing?
Wiegert: Oh, I’m doing just fucking great.
Remiker: You working all day or what?
Wiegert: Oh, I don’t know, just doing some reports. We got a bunch of shit... tips, kinda people who saw her....track some of those down.
Remiker: You do a flyover at all?
Wiegert: Yeah, they did those yesterday, I didn’t know, I was up in Green Bay with the boss all….
Remiker: Have you established a timeline at all? Where you think she went first or last, direction of travel?
Wiegert: Here’s what we think, we’re trying to track down a fax she had sent on Monday. We think it came from her apartment. Had a Green Bay number but it was attached to her computer and fax machine. We did a test fax this morning, and that’s what it came back to from her fax machine at her apartment.
Remiker: In?
Wiegert: In St. John’s. Where she was living.
Remiker: And that’s at what time?
Wiegert: That's at 12... 12:13 in the a.m. and we couldn't figure out how that fit in because we know she was seen later that afternoon.
Remiker: So the fax was before she went to Avery's & Zipperer’s?
Wiegert: Yeah.
Remiker: Okay, alright.
Wiegert: So that next, that day, her first appointment, New Holstein, about 1:30 in the afternoon, then we believe she goes to Avery’s ...time…. we're not sure….
Remiker: Avery says he believes 2 or 2:30.
Wiegert: From there we believe she goes to Zipperer's. Zipperer is apparently not real good on time.
Remiker: Yeah...[laughs]...yeah.
Wiegert: And that's the last time anyone has seen her; she has a cell phone call at 2:24 which it appears she had answered; there's one at 2:27 which is incoming (appears to be edited) got or not went to voicemail, talking to the person down at auto magazine... she says... "I think that was me, I left her a message" but didn't know what time it was.
Remiker: What time did Dedering get off the caller ID at Zipperer’s place that she called; do you remember what time that was?
Wiegert: Hold on, I've got this right here; okay, I'm back; there's a call placed to Zipperer's at 2:12 p.m. on Monday.
Remiker: Okay.
Wiegert: So I'm assuming that's the one she probably left a voicemail there.
Remiker: Probably...right…. before she got there?
Wiegert: Yeah the last call, 2:27, that's an incoming one, which we believe just went to voicemail (inaudible), which is five minutes long. Um, and that's it; after that, we got nothin'; so between 2:12 and 2:27...that's it....she disappears.
Remiker: Did Dedering get those phone records for tower locations and stuff.
By Rookie1082, TickTockManitowoc
One thing that always stood out in my mind that got brushed aside by some people was the first conversation that Remiker and Wiegert on the morning on the 5th. No, not the one where Remiker seems to document but Wiegert somehow does not...
I'm referring to the one that not even Remiker mentions in his entire report for the morning of 11/5.
You know, the infamous "Niles! Ohhhh I'm just doin' fockin' great
The one where no one seems to document. Why was this very important phishing.
knowledge gathering expedition that Remiker was on not put in any reports? Probably because they contained information that pointed away from Steven Avery.
Please remember that this call was part of the audio CD that was provided to the defense in August of 2006
The fact that this call was hidden from the defense for almost 10 months after it happened is troubling. It provides some vital clues before the tunnel vision of CASO came into effect. They had no reason to suspect Avery because of two reasons.
- MTSO was sure to put how cooperative Steven Avery was being by letting him search inside, answering all of their questions, etc. Notice how he's an angel prior to the 5th. This narrative that was in their reports was sure to have been the verbal narrative that the likes of Lenk, Remiker, Colborn were feeding MW and CASO at the time. For all Wiegert knew, Zipperer was the real suspect because Colborn was already calling Zipperer a suspect on the night of the 3rd in the presence of Dedering from CASO.
- No evidence has been found yet, obviously. It was prior to the RAV being found. However, we already know that thanks to outside information that MTSO was first to give WBAY news the scoop that Already on Friday November 4th Steven Avery was the last place to have seen Teresa alive. Apparently Wiegert was not privy to that news report as of the first call with Remiker on 11/5... this is MTSO planting the public perception a day before their grand piece of evidence will be located on the same salvage yard that they are leaking Teresa was last seen at.
First: When was this call made? We know that it was made after they went to Teresa's house. How do we know? Because Wiegert tells us so, of course...
Remiker inquires about a flyover the day before. He inquires about tracing Teresa's last steps because he sure is curious to solving this case, i'm sure. So interested in getting all the details that he
Wiegert gives a pretty insightful breakdown of what CASO believed to be Teresa's steps on 10/31. Remember this information was what they had as of 11/05 between 8:30 and 10:30 am.
Note that this is a cumulative investigation. Dedering has had input into this "timeline" and Wiegert tells Remiker that he doesn't have the faxes from Cingular in front of him
First Appointment SS (~1:30 PM)
Second Appointment SA (~2-2:30 PM according to DR)
Third Appointment GZ ** (Wiegert and Remiker not sure on time but Wiegert mentions the 2:12pm Voicemail and Remiker then suggests probably right before she gets there. Why is this important? Because it fits in well with a switched voicemail theory that another poster on here has written fantastically about in the past. If they hear On Teresa's VM that she's having a hard time finding the residence, then of COURSE she left it before she gets there...)
Wiegert thinks that Teresa actually goes missing between 2:12PM and 2:27PM because the doesn't answer THE VOICEMAIL MESSAGE FROM AUTO TRADER THAT Wiegert ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT. Also notice the splicing between "Which incomin" "...Got her" The aforementioned poster also made posts about the splicing in the dispatch calls. Not surprising Remiker prepared the audio CD for S and B, as he would know exactly what to remove 8 months after that call based on where the state's narrative has turned.
Also notice the 2:27 VM from Dawn is missing from the VM exhibit
Why? Well, that's not the question to ask. The question to ask is Why did Dawns memory refresh so much 18 months after the event? The answer is easy... It's because by trial time, the timeline and story had morphed into SA is GAF because we found a car on his property. (And subsequently the other evidence) The 2:27 VM is one of the voicemails that have been deleted as claimed by Zellner hence the story had to change or else it wouldn't make sense. The story changed... Welp, the call had to be spliced or else it wouldn't make sense.
Do you see? The dispatch calls from MTSO, the calls with the most useful information to Teresa's whereabouts were not handed over to the defense or state until the summer of 06. The summer of 06! Enough time to have the story evolve, have Brendan come forward, and have Remiker take a little bit off the top here, a little bit off the sides there and presto, a fresh Audio CD for the defense with a note that possibly read:
Here you go, guys. All of our raw audio footage, unedited. My Pleasure. -Niles
It's clear as day, at least to me. What about you?
Nowhere is the 2:41 call mentioned on this call because it was irrelevant at the time to CASO investigation. According to Wiegert, Teresa is already missing at this point.
The theory before the RAV is found is that Teresa goes missing after leaving the voicemail at the Zipperer's. If we are to believe the Zipperer family and investigative reports, we are to believe that Teresa made that last stop. The question I have is why Teresa would leave a month old publication at both the SA residence and the Zipperer residence? I digress.
Hidden Gem
This is where the fun audio game comes into play. There is a portion of the call that tells us exactly the time and day that Dedering received the location information that included the towers, and the GPS (in reality TDOA technology in my previous posts) coordinates from Cingular. Wiegert tells Remiker that Yes Dedering DID receive the fax, but Wiegert doesn't have them. Dedering grabbed them the night that.....
Now the fun part
Audio slowed down thanks to a user below
What does Wiegert say when Dedering starts saying OK, OK over him?
Please PM me with your suggestions as to avoid bias and tainting the "jury"
This is important as it will clarify either the night of 11/3 and 11/4 as to when Dedering and CASO had the Location records from Cingular.
There are reports corresponding to Dedering that will tell us the night he received them..
If they were received on 11/3...
If they were received on 11/4...
Note that what Wiegert says about the night Dedering took the tower location records from Cingular, corresponds to Dedrring's actions. We need to clarify what Wiegert says to have a more factual depiction when CASO obtained Teresa's location history on 10/31
Being the go getter that he is, Remiker offers Wiegert his assistance... "If you need anything, holler"
Oh Remiker, how "Investigative" of you to know that he'd need a hand... and a key... and some bones... and some blood... and some burned belongings..
TL;DR It's becoming more clear, to me at least, that with the information supplied to Dedering and CASO, that they had more than a printout from Teresa's friends from the night of 11/3 when stating Wiegert's timeline on this call.
To think otherwise, would be brushing aside the most important part of the investigation.
Too bad Dedering has kept quiet all these years.
ETA Zellner knows.... She has taken this information that wasn't used at trial in relation to Teresa's footsteps that she and her team retraced... The footsteps were guided by Teresa's TDOA location history (within 300 meters i'd venture to say)
ETA2 Detective Remiker, I didn't know MTSO original form recordings already come pre spliced
Comments:
[–]ThorsClawHammer
I'm sure I read somewhere the only reason defence discovered the audio even existed was because Remiker slipped up at pre trial??
Yep:
Q. And all of this recollection that you are relating to us now comes from your review of the phone calls?
A. It's a little bit of both. As I reviewed the phone calls, I remembered a couple more things, an independent recollection of that exact date.
ATTORNEY BUTING: Judge, at this time, I request we take a break. We have not had an opportunity, did not even know of such recordings, even though we have requested them. And I think at this point we have got to take a break so that we have an opportunity to review those before I can complete my cross-examination of Detective Remiker.
[–]Whiznot
At the 4 minute mark of the infamous Remiker/Wiegart call we see that both LEOs zero in on the importance of cell tower location evidence to track TH. Of course, that is fundamental and cannot be overlooked. Can it? /s
[–]What_a_Jem
Remiker certainly seemed to be saying to Wiegert, THINK AVERY!
[–]tangent685 5 points 1 month ago
Here is the audio slowed down. https://www.dropbox.com/s/konsrlu6cwnomtv/DRMW2.ogg?dl=0
[–]tangent685
and here it is as an MP3 in case you can't play .ogg files https://www.dropbox.com/s/ra45dh6igfcalz3/mwdr3.mp3?dl=0
[–]Rookie1082
Here is what I hear in it's entirety:
"Ummmmm.. Yes, but I don't have them they came faxed the night he grabbed them and he went up back up the house to check on that fax machine ....actually."
Does that make any sense?
If I had to guess... And since DR or whoever was preparing the audio CD for the defense and state spliced out the relevant information. That they splices out multiple instances of this call.
We already know there's a splice to cover up the 2:27 VM, it would only make sense that to cover up any chance of Dean and Jerry catching on the trail of the phone records (which they were claimed to have dropped the ball on by Zellner -- Now we kind of see the wool was pulled over their eyes).
The two NOTICABLE splices are both regarding the phone records.
Cover up 2:27 voicemail to match Dawn's morphing testimony about actually speaking with TH (about UPS labels and her kids nonetheless).
JD receiving the Location information from Cingular on Teresa's handset the Night of........ Splice. You know, the night he went to the fax machine to check on it. That night. What the fuck ever.
TLDR: IF you'd like to present anyone that doesn't believe this case was a frame up with some hard evidence of shenanigans by DR and MTSO, you point them to these calls, the phone records, and the rest will take care of itself.
Done. Let's go KZ.
[–]tangent685
I'm not sure if you are thinking the splice occurs here but I have a link to a picture of the wav file here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhmdq3l4qsa3jqz/OKOK.jpg?dl=0
It would appear that there is a crossfade (something that blends to audio parts together by fading the first part out slowly while fading in the second part to avoid hearing the "blip" sound of a slice). The photo should be fairly self explanatory but I have a circle in the area where Weigert's voice seems to degrade into digital artifacts when he is saying what we think is "actually". This is not concrete proof, just the appearance of a crossfade.
[–]Rookie1082
It happens right around that circle, maybe a bit before.
Edit:
The splice occurs exactly between Wiegert saying "The night" and "He grabbed them"... I think... The sentence doesn't make sense.
[–]tangent685
Here is the area with "The night he" https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0za9ikb3i7w0el/thenight_he.jpg?dl=0
I don't see any telltale signs of noise dropout or crossfades. I'm not disagreeing with you, just showing what it looks like.
[–]tangent685
I took the audio clip off of youtube and took the couple of seconds where Remiker asks about the tower locations. I looped from where Weigert says "no, he grabbed them off the fax machine" and finished after Remiker says, Ok, Ok. I guess that what I got from it was that Deidering was going up to the new house (I think Weigert says house) to check the fax. Then I played it over and over several dozen times. Anyway, as I said, it got me to thinking that she had just moved prior to all this taking place. I don't know if her moving was related, unless she was trying to get away from an ex or was just trying to move closer to her studio. Its just another one of those twists in this case.
Transcript of Remiker's call to Wiegert
November 5, 2005 9:03 a.m.
Note: Reddit user Altwolf's analysis of this call has determined that it was edited to remove content as Remiker and Wiegert discuss the 2:27 p.m. and 2:41 p.m. incoming calls to Teresa's cell phone. Cingular does not list the phone numbers of incoming calls on their reports/bills, so Wiegert is lying in his reports when he claims to have done a reverse lookup of these two calls (CASO file). There are no phone numbers for incoming callers on the Cingular report/bill so he can't reverse lookup incoming calls, only outgoing calls from Teresa's cell phone. Dawn Pliszka of AutoTrader told Wiegert on November 3rd, as he is interviewing people to ascertain the identity of incoming callers, that she called Teresa in the morning and talked to her, and then in the afternoon she called again and thinks she left her a voicemail message (page 20, CASO file). Of the two calls at 2:27 p.m. and 2:41 p.m. only one went to voicemail, the 2:41 p.m. call. Therefore, 15 months later, during Avery's trial, Dawn's recollection of talking to Teresa for almost five minutes, starting at 2:27 p.m., is a false memory. The prosecution used her to establish a timeline and narrative, and they did this through intimidation tactics and coercion. Her testimony was, as was the testimony of her boss, Angela Schuster, coached and rehearsed by Kratz to put Teresa at Avery's at 3 p.m. on October 31st.
Dispatch: Calumet County Sheriff's Department.
Remiker: Good morning, this is Det. Remiker with Manitowoc County.
Dispatch: Good Morning.
Remiker: Is Wiegert or Dedering in at all?
Dispatch: Yes, I believe Wiegert's in his office, hold just a moment.
Wiegert: Niles...Hey.
Remiker: Hey, how you doing?
Wiegert: Oh, I’m doing just fucking great.
Remiker: You working all day or what?
Wiegert: Oh, I don’t know, just doing some reports. We got a bunch of shit... tips, kinda people who saw her....track some of those down.
Remiker: You do a flyover at all?
Wiegert: Yeah, they did those yesterday, I didn’t know, I was up in Green Bay with the boss all….
Remiker: Have you established a timeline at all? Where you think she went first or last, direction of travel?
Wiegert: Here’s what we think, we’re trying to track down a fax she had sent on Monday. We think it came from her apartment. Had a Green Bay number but it was attached to her computer and fax machine. We did a test fax this morning, and that’s what it came back to from her fax machine at her apartment.
Remiker: In?
Wiegert: In St. John’s. Where she was living.
Remiker: And that’s at what time?
Wiegert: That's at 12... 12:13 in the a.m. and we couldn't figure out how that fit in because we know she was seen later that afternoon.
Remiker: So the fax was before she went to Avery's & Zipperer’s?
Wiegert: Yeah.
Remiker: Okay, alright.
Wiegert: So that next, that day, her first appointment, New Holstein, about 1:30 in the afternoon, then we believe she goes to Avery’s ...time…. we're not sure….
Remiker: Avery says he believes 2 or 2:30.
Wiegert: From there we believe she goes to Zipperer's. Zipperer is apparently not real good on time.
Remiker: Yeah...[laughs]...yeah.
Wiegert: And that's the last time anyone has seen her; she has a cell phone call at 2:24 which it appears she had answered; there's one at 2:27 which is incoming (appears to be edited) got or not went to voicemail, talking to the person down at auto magazine... she says... "I think that was me, I left her a message" but didn't know what time it was.
Remiker: What time did Dedering get off the caller ID at Zipperer’s place that she called; do you remember what time that was?
Wiegert: Hold on, I've got this right here; okay, I'm back; there's a call placed to Zipperer's at 2:12 p.m. on Monday.
Remiker: Okay.
Wiegert: So I'm assuming that's the one she probably left a voicemail there.
Remiker: Probably...right…. before she got there?
Wiegert: Yeah the last call, 2:27, that's an incoming one, which we believe just went to voicemail (inaudible), which is five minutes long. Um, and that's it; after that, we got nothin'; so between 2:12 and 2:27...that's it....she disappears.
Remiker: Did Dedering get those phone records for tower locations and stuff.
Wiegert: Yeah, but I don't have them, he grabbed them and then went back up to the house to check on the fax machine.
Remiker: Okay, so you don't know what that last phone call... what tower went off or anything?
Wiegert: I don't know that.
Remiker: Alright.
Wiegert: I did get a call last night, there was a Knutsen, from Valders; actually said she... she claims... she left, she left me a voicemail which I haven't got; dispatch called me, she claimed, allegedly...she claims... she was on her way home and sees Teresa... and she sees Teresa pulled over taking a picture of a cow.
Remiker: Huh...she know Teresa?
Wiegert: No, just seen on the news.. all this kind of crap, I'm going to get my ducks in a row and drive up to Valders, talk to her. Are you working today?
Remiker: Yeah, so if you need anything let me know.
Wiegert: Okay, so what I think I'm going to do, if she think she's pretty positive, I'll just get a hold of you and maybe we'll go up to that area and talk to her.
Remiker: Sure.
Wiegert: Take a look around so. You got a direct number there Davey?
Remiker: Yeah, give you my cell. Give me yours again, I always lose it.
Wiegert: Dave, I'm sure you're aware that the family... doing a search on their own.
Remiker: Yep, I read that note.
Wiegert: I called last night, I didn't know if they'll be trespassing on someone's property over there…. somebody…out the front door.... inaudible….. crazy fucks.
Remiker: Only thing we got is, someone called in, said 8:45, saying they seen a vehicle going northbound on I-43 near DePere a blue or green RAV4.
Wiegert: We got another one, she was seen on Double O and Appleton driving that vehicle. What we will do is put together a sheet with all the tips, so if yours come in on I-43 at 2 o'clock and Double O at 2 o'clock we can pretty much rule that out.
Remiker: Yep, that's a good idea.
Wiegert: So,
Remiker: K.
Wiegert: Let me get my shit…. I got…..crazy...oh fuck
Remiker: I know... I know... I'm gonna let you go, need anything holler. I'm here till at least 4 o'clock.
Wiegert: Here till 4:00?
Remiker: Yep.
Wiegert: Sounds good man.
*Remiker asks Wiegert if they have established a TIMELINE. Wiegert starts to tell him and as soon as Wiegert starts to elaborate on the 2:27 call (starting at 2:38 in the video) you can tell something is edited out. It's obvious. As soon as he says:
"There is one at 2:27 which..." *click*
"....got or not". *click*
It's edited two times!!
Thanks to u/Altwolf he cleaned up the clip. Listen here. There are actually two splices. After the first one you hear "got or not" and then it's spliced again.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2EpQ8TxqKvrQUlUMXQ4X3VCMVE/view?usp=drivesdk
Click here to listen to the original so you can hear it in context.
**At trial Dawn says Teresa called her at 2:27 p.m. and they talked for like 4-5 minutes, but Teresa never called AutoTrader that day. Plus, the first time Dawn was questioned (often more accurate) she said she tried to call Teresa that afternoon, and she thought that maybe the 2:27 p.m. call was her and that she left a message. That is a huge deal if Dawn's call was a voicemail and not a conversation with Teresa. That would mean that Teresa never talked to Dawn and that she never said (paraphrasing), "I'm on my way to the Avery's now." Dawn is the key witness in establishing the prosecution's timeline.
“If we wanted to, um eliminate Steve, it would’ve been a whole lot easier to eliminate Steve than it would be to frame Steve. Hell, but, if we wanted him out of the picture, like in prison, or if you wanted him killed, you know, it would’ve been much easier just to kill him.” - Manitowoc County Sheriff Ken Peterson on FOX11
Wiegert: I did get a call last night, there was a Knutsen, from Valders; actually said she... she claims... she left, she left me a voicemail which I haven't got; dispatch called me, she claimed, allegedly...she claims... she was on her way home and sees Teresa... and she sees Teresa pulled over taking a picture of a cow.
Remiker: Huh...she know Teresa?
Wiegert: No, just seen on the news.. all this kind of crap, I'm going to get my ducks in a row and drive up to Valders, talk to her. Are you working today?
Remiker: Yeah, so if you need anything let me know.
Wiegert: Okay, so what I think I'm going to do, if she think she's pretty positive, I'll just get a hold of you and maybe we'll go up to that area and talk to her.
Remiker: Sure.
Wiegert: Take a look around so. You got a direct number there Davey?
Remiker: Yeah, give you my cell. Give me yours again, I always lose it.
Wiegert: Dave, I'm sure you're aware that the family... doing a search on their own.
Remiker: Yep, I read that note.
Wiegert: I called last night, I didn't know if they'll be trespassing on someone's property over there…. somebody…out the front door.... inaudible….. crazy fucks.
Remiker: Only thing we got is, someone called in, said 8:45, saying they seen a vehicle going northbound on I-43 near DePere a blue or green RAV4.
Wiegert: We got another one, she was seen on Double O and Appleton driving that vehicle. What we will do is put together a sheet with all the tips, so if yours come in on I-43 at 2 o'clock and Double O at 2 o'clock we can pretty much rule that out.
Remiker: Yep, that's a good idea.
Wiegert: So,
Remiker: K.
Wiegert: Let me get my shit…. I got…..crazy...oh fuck
Remiker: I know... I know... I'm gonna let you go, need anything holler. I'm here till at least 4 o'clock.
Wiegert: Here till 4:00?
Remiker: Yep.
Wiegert: Sounds good man.
*Remiker asks Wiegert if they have established a TIMELINE. Wiegert starts to tell him and as soon as Wiegert starts to elaborate on the 2:27 call (starting at 2:38 in the video) you can tell something is edited out. It's obvious. As soon as he says:
"There is one at 2:27 which..." *click*
"....got or not". *click*
It's edited two times!!
Thanks to u/Altwolf he cleaned up the clip. Listen here. There are actually two splices. After the first one you hear "got or not" and then it's spliced again.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2EpQ8TxqKvrQUlUMXQ4X3VCMVE/view?usp=drivesdk
Click here to listen to the original so you can hear it in context.
**At trial Dawn says Teresa called her at 2:27 p.m. and they talked for like 4-5 minutes, but Teresa never called AutoTrader that day. Plus, the first time Dawn was questioned (often more accurate) she said she tried to call Teresa that afternoon, and she thought that maybe the 2:27 p.m. call was her and that she left a message. That is a huge deal if Dawn's call was a voicemail and not a conversation with Teresa. That would mean that Teresa never talked to Dawn and that she never said (paraphrasing), "I'm on my way to the Avery's now." Dawn is the key witness in establishing the prosecution's timeline.
“If we wanted to, um eliminate Steve, it would’ve been a whole lot easier to eliminate Steve than it would be to frame Steve. Hell, but, if we wanted him out of the picture, like in prison, or if you wanted him killed, you know, it would’ve been much easier just to kill him.” - Manitowoc County Sheriff Ken Peterson on FOX11
No Report Dennis Jacobs. Mr Do we have a body yet? and the supposed collector of GZ VM from Teresa that is missing lives Right between The Sheriff Being sued back then Kocourek, and the Current Sheriff Hermann? Interesting!! pic.twitter.com/8d2TnjSjH5— JynxTheAwesome (@MysticJynx) July 27, 2018
Last December, Remiker sent an email to Manitowoc County Board Chairman Jim Brey proclaiming that he, Remiker "was one of the lead investigators on the case."
ReplyDeleteRemiker was one of a handful of sheriff's detectives from Manitowoc County whose actions were heavily scrutinized by Avery's defense lawyers Dean Strang and Jerome Buting, who had built their defense on the premise that Avery was innocent of the Halbach murder and that Manitowoc County Sheriff's planted blood and other clues against him.
Remiker, Sgt. Andrew Colborn and Lt. Detective James Lenk were a regular presence at the Avery Salvage Yard in the days leading up Avery's arrest on Nov. 9, 2005. The day before, Lenk and Colborn found a spare key that was on the floor of Avery's bedroom, an area already searched numerous times in the previous days.
On Saturday morning, Nov. 5, 2005, Pamela Sturm found Halbach's dark green RAV4 on the Avery Salvage Yard property under suspicious circumstances. When Sturm found the vehicle, she was patched into Calumet County Sheriff's investigator Mark Wiegert, who implored her not to touch the vehicle — which was missing both of its license plates and covered with tree branches. Soon afterward, Remiker rushed out to the Avery Salvage Yard arriving at 10:56 a.m., reports state.
Steven Avery's attorney Jerome Buting questions a ManitiwocBuy Photo
Steven Avery's attorney Jerome Buting questions a Manitiwoc County sheriff's deputy during the Steven Avery trial in February 2007. (Photo: File/USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin)
Remiker remained a fixture on the Avery Salvage Yard that day. The log showed he, Lenk and Colborn signed out about 10:45 p.m. About four months later, Remiker and Lenk were back on the Avery Salvage property when bullet fragments appeared on the concrete floor of the small garage.
The bullet fragments that contained Halbach's DNA were not discovered back in November 2005 when Remiker and others searched the garage. The bullet fragments found in March 2006 gave authorities vital physical evidence to corroborate Dassey's incriminating statement that the developmentally slow teenager had given just days earlier to Wiegert and investigator Tom Fassbender.
The Manitowoc County sheriff's administration gave Remiker, Lenk and Colborn special recognition reports for their personnel file complimenting them for their investigative work at the Avery Salvage Yard that led to Avery's Nov. 9, 2005 arrest. Days earlier, special prosecutor Ken Kratz announced to the media that Manitowoc County would not be involved in gathering evidence against Avery, who had a $36 million lawsuit against the county after losing 18 years of freedom because of a wrongful conviction for rape.
By the time that Remiker got into trouble during the Dassey trial, the sequestered jury had already heard six days of testimony. Remiker told his supervisors he had no prior knowledge that Prange's husband had entered the secured area of the jury that Saturday night, "but Detective Remiker was aware of his presence at certain times," his deficiency report pointed out.
Prange's punishment was more harsh. Her violation of the jury sequestration order was discussed at length behind the scenes at the sheriff's office on April 23-25, the seventh, eighth and ninth days of Dassey's jury trial.
Read the full article at the link below:
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/steven-avery/2016/05/13/manitowoc-deputies-disciplined-dassey-trial/84247784/
Tom Kocourek, sheriff of Manitowoc County for more than 20 years, retiring in 2001. Back in 1985, Kocourek asked that Avery's photograph be used in a photo array shown to the rape victim. Kocourek is later named as one of the defendants in a $36 million federal lawsuit brought forward by Avery.
ReplyDeleteIn 2004, Steven Avery filed a civil suit for his wrongful imprisonment. The suit was filed against Manitowoc County, and additionally the Sheriff and District Attorney at the time of his exonerated conviction – Tom Kocourek and Denis Vogel. Both had left their offices by 2004. In fact, Vogel resigned as D.A. shortly after Avery’s 1985 conviction.
This trial was settled abruptly when Avery was arrested for Teresa Halbach’s murder. Tom Kocourek was actually scheduled to be deposed the day after Avery’s arrest. Because of the settlement, further investigation into any possible malfeasance during the investigation into Beerntsen’s rape is impossible.