Saturday, February 27, 2016

Teresa's Halbach's Laptop



Teresa's Laptop: has this data ever been analysed for activity on any dates after her last being seen?

[-]magiclougie

In her activity report for 11/3, Lemieux wrote that she spoke to Scott and Teresa's parents when she and Wiegert arrived on 11/3 (she references "several of their mutual friends" locating "Teresa's most recent cell phone activity report on her computer," but she doesn't mention speaking to any of these friends and she doesn't list their names).

Lemieux wrote:
I notified Inv. WEIGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. of the situation. Inv. WIEGERT and I responded to TERESA's residence and spoke with TERESA's roommate, SCOTT, and her parents. They said that TERESA did not have a current boyfriend or any recent ex-boyfriend. They said they had been making contact with TERESA's friends by phone and no one had had any contact with her.

SCOTT allowed us to enter the residence and showed us TERESA's room. SCOTT and several of their mutual friends had located TERESA's most recent cell phone activity report on her computer. They printed a copy for us, which showed the last cell phone activity at 2:27 p.m. on Monday, 10/31/05. It appeared when looking at the minutes used history that TERESA had made phone calls to each of her appointments prior to her arrival that day.

I called TERESA's cell phone number 920-727-4731. The phone went instantly to a voicemail with a message indicating that her voicemail was full. TERESA's family said that TERESA had only one cell phone that she used for personal and business use. We located several credit card and banking statements, a current photograph and a personal journal for TERESA, which were turned over to us.

SCOTT also allowed us to collect TERESA's computer, which he said was hers, alone. SCOTT showed me her hairbrush, which I then collected a small sample of hair from the brush for possible DNA if needed.
A forensic analysis of Teresa's laptop computer would provide the answer to this question (and maybe would identify the route she planned to drive on 10/31), but it appears only Steven Avery's computer was analyzed.

Teresa used mapquest, from what I understand. They should have analyzed her computer activity for 10/31 to see what route she may have mapped out using mapquest. That would have given an accurate timeline and put to rest where she went first, second, etc. and last.

Of course, an expert analysis of cell tower data from all the towers that might have serviced her phone would have been the best way to develop an an accurate timeline, but the State didn't want that because it would exculpate Avery and prove that timeline witnesses provided false testimony.

Teresa would have passed surveillance cameras along her route (convenience stores, banks, government buildings, etc.), but LE didn't retrieve the tapes because the footage would have contradicted the State's timeline.

And the defense team's only investigator, Pete Baetz (a former Madison County sheriff's deputy), didn't try to establish a timeline. He didn't request tower dumps, didn't request Teresa's originals call detail records or evidence of text messages, and didn't look for surveillance footage from businesses, government buildings or private residences that she may have passed. He didn't interview witnesses to see if their statement were consistent with police reports.

[–] ahhhreallynow 10 points 3 days ago

I asked this question awhile back and from what I gather it was never looked at. Mind boggling isnt it? I do not understand that. It could tell a story, and they didnt take it. I think they zeroed in on SA and that was that.

I tweeted the idea to Zellner. Hopefully they'll add to their forensics list. It seems to be one of those things you consider if you know it's a possibility and have ever snooped around at all those weird MS functions (assuming she had a Windows machine). I don't know a thing about Apples, but surely it has a similar set of functions.

[–] ahhhreallynow 5 points 3 days ago

I went back to what would have happened if SA wasnt involved in the case and they were investigating a missing persons case. What would the protocol be. I would think taking her computer would be one of the first things that happens. They don't have her car at this point. She could have run away. Yes they should have looked at her last contacts for sure. But they also should be looking at Ex's, family member, co workers, online relationships. Standard stuff. Just wasn't done. Didn't treat ex or roommate as potential suspects, didn't check her history to see if someone was harrassing her, or if she had met someone online.

[–] amileah 3 points 3 days ago

Agreed! I believe that the Casey Anthony case was around this time (maybe a few years after), but the computer info was pivotal in that case. Where is Teresa's computer, where is Steven's computer, & where is Teresa's "journal" that they recovered from her residence? (please don't give me an eye roll for the CA case, I'm only bringing it up in terms of computer-forensic evidence as a reference)

[–] ahhhreallynow 1 points 3 days ago

No eyerolls from me lol! Steven and the Dassey computer are on the evidence list. I remember that LE picked up her journal early in the investigation but i don't believe it was used as evidence in the case.

[–] Thewormsate 1 points 3 days ago

Maybe there was something to hide!

[–] judgeabernathy 1 points 3 days ago

Or maybe there was nothing relevant in it. The victim has a right to privacy, you know, and the journal shouldn't be revealed to anyone who doesn't have to see it (including the jury and assorted lawyers) if it adds nothing to the case.

That being said, i wonder if LE even checked Teresa's online activity to see if she had an online diary of some sort, like LiveJournal. I know i had one back in those ancient times, and i was much more honest with my anonymous internet friends than my irl ones. If she had one, it could provide truer information regarding her relationships, including those with customers, than what she told people. Not everyone will readily admit to their family that they're afraid or creeped out by someone, especially if they suspect they might be inclined to intervene in some way or cause a fuss.

[–] Thewormsate 1 points 3 days ago

Of course privacy should be maintained if there is nothing relevant. But i'm talking what if there was info in there that would shed light of the situation. But, just like everything else, if there was, we would never know because LEO's don't want us to know!

[–] judgeabernathy 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, unfortunately the entire system is designed to rely on LE collecting, handling, and disclosing evidence properly and without ulterior motives, and here we really can't trust they did that, leading to doubts. 

The computer and journal are like many other undisclosed parts of this investigation -- could be nothing, by all normal standards should be nothing, but we can't just assume that, because those guys have shown themselves to be unreliable at the very least. Sigh.

Only two mentions of 'computer' in the evidence log. 07-148 10296 Dassey computer CD-DVD and 05-179 7617 "misc computer equipment"

Nothing about Halbach computer.

Is there a separate missing persons case report that lists anything collected for that? You guys are better at finding actual documents than I am. :)

[–] SNOWMANCOFFEECUP 3 points 3 days ago

This is what bothers me to no end. The person you want information on has a computer that you don't check?! You just take the crazy ex boyfriend's word on it? How did none of this raise a red flag in that community? I wonder if she had a livejournal.

Have investigators spoke with anyone who had pictures done recently from her photography business? Not Auto Trader. Just brainstorming over my morning coffee. Makes me more sick to think about it when I realize the negligence in this case.

[–] TennDawn 3 points 3 days ago

And in most cases, the first thing done is search computers.

[–] [deleted] 2 points 3 days ago

I'd be shocked if they had it. I do not believe they collected it. There was no witness testifying about the contents of the hard drive. Shoddy police work.

[–] eyesclosing

Her cargo area was much cleaner than mine! With regards to sd cards and palm pilot, they practically testified that there were possible ways to access the info by removing the chips but they never did it. End of testimony. How was that allowed to happen....ehhhh take the chips out then....come on!!

[–] lolindz

It is SO frustrating that they didn't even bother to check! What if she had been talking to someone online and planned to meet them after she finished work the day she went missing? There are so many possibilities like how could they just ignore that?? Gahd.

[–] ahhhreallynow

or an online diary, or correspondence about whoever was bothering her. Hard to believe.They do have the SD card from the cargo area in the evidence. But there was never a report of what was found on that, either. But at least it's preserved, or should be.

Then again, maybe it is just a card holder: 06-10 8235 plastic memory card holder (CalCty Evidence log)

Holders are used to carry micro SD cards so you can put them into devices that take the regular sized ones. I can understand why a photographer would need one.

Has anyone looked inside it to see if there is a micro SD inside?

[–] [deleted] 1 points 3 days ago

I do not believe so. I haven't seen any testimony about that. In fact, the FBI testified about the phone and camera components allegedly found in the burn barrel and they did not even attempt to access the inner chips to see if data could be retrieved.

I'm speaking of the one in the back of the RAV. It was seen by someone at the scene on the Avery property and shows up clearly on photos from the crime lab. It reportedly had a note on it with TH's name. It wasn't burnt. It was just there.

Also, I'm confused how it got there or anything found in the back of the RAV got there. It is claimed there was a cargo mat that had been removed, hence no blood on the floor of the vehicle. So is it assumed the SD card or holder was originally under the mat? Or did it fall out of her pocket and went un-noticed? Same sort of spatial question for the pen and the front left parking light component.

Sorry, have wavered off my original topic a bit (a lot!).

[–] [deleted] 1 points 3 days ago

No, it's fine. I knew you were referring to that card. I just wanted to add that they didn't look at any of them for data as far as I've been able to determine.

[–] BugDog1 1 points 3 days ago

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  1. Page 3--Corporal Lemiuex says they took the computer on the 3rd--not the 4th as Weigert and Dedering claim

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    1. Yes, from page 1 of the CASO file.

      "SCOTT also allowed us to collect TERESA's computer, which he said was hers, alone."

      http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/CASO-Investigative-Report.pdf

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