Sunday, December 8, 2019

Teresa Halbach's "Missing Person Poster" Was Created on 11/2/2005



The footer of the document in the image above, which is from the Youth Educated in Safety (YES) website, most likely was "auto populated" at the time the document was created.

Default YES format:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/images/LAHNNA01.jpg

https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/htdocs/andylathrop.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/kellynolan.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/documents/amandamaecoon.pdf

Question: Macro to Insert Footer with Date, Filename, Page x of y

In previous versions of Word I always created a simple macro to insert a footing into my documents.

It would add the date, the filename, and "page x of y" as the footing.

Very simple. Very easy to create. Worked without a hitch.

I am now trying to do that with Office 365 and encountering far more problems than seem reasonable.

So before I go any further, I thought I'd post to see if there was an easier way to do this? A template? A different footer style?

Answer:

A macro is usually overkill for this kind of task.

The best way to do it is to create the whole footer in a custom template. Then every document you base on that template will start out with the footer already in place (although the filename field won't automatically update when you save the document, so you'll have to update it manually, most easily by going to the Print screen and back to the document).

Hint: For the date, use a CREATEDATE field instead of a DATE field. In the template it will show the date of the template's creation. In documents based on the template, it will show the date when the document was created -- and, unlike the DATE field, it won't change if the document is later reopened.

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Teresa Halbach's mother called to report Teresa as "missing" at 2:52 PM on 11/3/05; however, the incident type was listed as "death"  (see image above).

Mike Halbach testified that a man from YES contacted them "the day we reported Teresa missing, that Thursday" (11/3/05):
"Yeah, on the -- Well, the day we reported Teresa missing, that Thursday, we had got a call from a man named Jay Breyer who offered his services at Youth Educated in Safety, which is a missing persons organization. He offered to make copies and make up a missing persons poster. So we took him up on that offer that night, finalized the poster and then the following afternoon we had got copies made."
Mike didn't say, "the day we realized Teresa was missing;" he said, "the day we reported Teresa missing."

Did they know she was dead before they reported her as "missing" at 2:52 PM on 11/3?



Teresa Halbach was supposed to be reported missing on 11/02/2005. For whatever reason, the start was delayed a day. It's not realistic for it to take CASO and MTSO only 5/6 hours to get the missing person segment on the 10 PM news, including her last whereabouts and clothes description (video above).

Missing person poster - just another typo?

by N64_Controller

https://web.archive.org/web/20060511183907/yeswi.org/htdocs/teresahalbach.pdf

This version of the poster was found on the archived site of the YES foundation. The date of 11/2/05 is either a typo or proof that TH's fate was known before 11/3/05.

Please have a look at the date bottom left in the PDF.

11/02/2005?

You can download the PDF and upload it to this site: https://www.get-metadata.com

You can see that the PDF create date is 11/4/2005 at 11:53:32, although the poster was probably first created in MS Word and then converted to pdf.

Just another typo?

Also, on the yeswi.org version of the missing person poster, the "missing" date has all the slashes but "Toyota Rave4" is spelled incorrectly.

On the Halbach computer the poster has a slash missing in the date and "Toyota Rav4" is spelled correctly (2:47 mark in video).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE

Also, the template has been the same since 2000:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/images/LAHNNA01.jpg

ABC News 11/28/2005 clip:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/archival-video-steven-avery-faces-murder-charges-36097474

Personally haven't seen this one before and thought it would be interesting to share.

A news clip from November that shows the missing person poster without the footer (why would that be?).

Also a very emotional MH (/s) talking about how people should not forget his sister who was 'murdered' mere weeks ago.

P.S. That footer date was also cropped out at Brendan's trial:

http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/Missing-Woman/0a311a68dc954727bcfbc94dfca5bb16/43/0

[–]_ScuttleButts

I remember seeing a video clip of Mike Halbach sitting at a computer with a missing poster on the screen, could this be the one? Did they create it a day before they reported her missing to police?

[–]N64_Controller[S]

I linked to that clip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE

[–]N64_Controller[S]

Fallon and Hillegas about YES and Jay Breyer:

Q. And as far as you know, he has no association with any law enforcement entity whatsoever?

A. I don't believe so, no.

Something to keep in mind here is that Ken Kratz, years before the TH case, was on the board of directors of YES.

https://imgur.com/rmAUXcU

[–]ThackerLaceyDeJaynes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE&t=195s

At the 2:48 mark is the poster in question. Wondering if someone with better IT skills than me can screenshot and see if the bottom line says Nov 2nd. Also, in this video is Teresa's day planner on her parent's table. Just wondering if they made a copy?

[–]N64_Controller[S]

This one from SkippyMF also shows something unreadable.

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/exhibit-245.jpg

[–]ThackerLaceyDeJaynes

I zoomed in. It says the 2nd. What the heck. So, do I think it's odd they noticed her absence a day prior? Not at all.

I just don't understand why LE said this all began on the 3rd.

[–]N64_Controller[S]

All those buttons:

https://imgur.com/a/ap46phf

KK's connection to YES:

https://imgur.com/rmAUXcU

Jay Breyer calling on the evening on Nov 3. Who informed him?

My belief in a pre-planned frame job.

[–]N64_Controller[S]

What I personally believe and think is painfully obvious is that the Halbach family is part of this frame job. Whether TH is dead or not remains to be seen.. Many scenarios are still plausible, no matter what nay sayers claim to be ridiculous.

[–]thed0ngs0ng

I'm certainly right there with you. I find it amazing that so many can watch and listen to the Halbachs and actually find them sincere.

I love that MaM included the footage of Barb saying, "I think the Halbachs set this whole thing up, I really do."

[–]PetrichorGirl

I think it's possible that both TH was killed and LE/her family lied about when they first knew she was missing. Maybe LE wanted to buy some time by delaying the documentation of the missing person's report (to help LE figure out what to do with this "opportunity"). And they might have fed TH's family all kinds of BS about why this was good for the case, and convinced them to go along with it. Maybe that is why the family acts suspiciously - because they have been told they have be quiet about the exact circumstances of how TH was discovered to be missing.

[–]N64_Controller[S]

Yes, I agree that could be it! One of the plausible scenarios.

[–]skippymofo

Here another picture of the poster. You can find the "sponsored" text but it is too flimsy to read the date:

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/exhibit-245.jpg

The exhibit version does not have the "sponsored" text. It seems they cut off the evidence poster because you cannot see this text.

There is another modification: from the web archive: may have traveled farther.

But on the Exhibit 10 you can read: may have been traveled farther.

Also the "license plate" on the exhibit poster looks like "lacense", but not sure about it.

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Exhibit-10-missing-person-poster.jpg

[–]Blondieblueeyes

The fact that Kratz cut off the part that shows the date as 11/2/05 is damning.

He showed the jury an altered exhibit.

Why is this missing poster dated a day before Teresa is reported missing? Thanks to others for spotting this. Was the family creating posters a day prior to Teresa being reported missing?

by _ScuttleButts

[–]7-pairs-of-panties

Well if they knew that she was missing a day earlier then it calls into question why Scott B and Ryan H didn’t learn of it until the 3rd. Scott says that on the 3rd that TH stepdad shows up to his worksite looking for TH. That’s when he was made aware and that he calls Ryan that afternoon. Not too big of a deal until you consider the fact that Acott was her roommate and lived next door to TH parents who would have had to have come over looking for her prior to reporting her missing, yet that’s not how it’s claimed to have happened.

If they knew by 11/2 that she was missing or dead, then it was reported privately to someone like Jerry Pagel, who the family knew, then formally called in the next day as if that was the first report of it.

Why would Karen Halbach not just say, "I realized yesterday she was missing and called the sheriff, who is a friend of the family, and he said we had to wait 24 hours before making a formal report."

[–]seekingtruthforgood

It looks like an auto date entry established in the document, next to the entry of the organization it came from.

[–]Soloandthewookiee

How can you possibly tell the difference between a macro-created date and a manually-created one?

[–]seekingtruthforgood

It's in the footer area of the document where one selects the type of data to add to the photo. "Date" is a common selection, and it's often used by organizations to track the versions of the documents and updates.

[–]Soloandthewookiee

It's also in the footer area where one can manually type in the date. How can you tell the difference?

[–]seekingtruthforgood

You can't but, when a company adds footers to show the company and date, one who creates these types of Word docs realizes that auto date is commonly placed in the left entry.

[–]lickity_snickum

In a normal world, where there aren't several dozen other "coincidences" I honestly wouldn't give this a second thought. Unfortunately, "coincidences" (more than is humanly believable) abound in this case, so who knows WHY the date is a day before Halbach was reported missing.

[–]SpiritWolf395

It goes hand in hand with LE not opening the RAV4 at Avery's. LE knew she was dead!

[–]7-pairs-of-panties

Well, this better explains how they had those buttons already made and printed out to be picked up on the 4th.

Everything started a day earlier.

It also explains how Kratz said that Wiegert came into his office on 11/3 and reported that a missing girl was last seen at Avery’s.

[–]IndependentCourt4

This does not require "dozens and dozens" of LE officials.

The argument that they wouldn't "risk going to prison" is such a poor argument.
  • If that were true, why would anyone commit a crime?
  • It's disproven by the fact that cops do, in fact, commit crimes.
  • Cops lie so often they have a special name for the list of lying cops: Brady list.
  • Cops are punished far less often and with less punishment than other citizens.
You really have no idea how the "thin blue line" works. Watch any situation where a cop goes off the rails and beats a suspect. How often do other cops step in to stop it? Virtually never.

Like anything else, it's a risk/reward tradeoff. They don't think they'll get caught, and if they get caught, they figure they'll get a slap on the wrist.

If that argument were correct, no cop would ever commit a crime and risk his cushy pension.

[–]Blondieblueeyes[S]

The missing poster for Teresa has the date 11/2/05.

She wasn't reported missing until 11/3/05.

It's a typo OR it was created before she was officially missing on the 3rd.

[–]tuckerm33

Look, every report and every piece of documentation has had a “typo” in it of some sort.

I think we are well beyond that element of benefit of the doubt at this point.

When everything is a typo, then nothing is a typo.

What we have is a planned disappearance and a planned framing for murder. The real reason we see date discrepancies is not because they are typos, it is because the plan was executed a day late.

All those reports and documents were created well in advance. Someone fucked up is the real reason why all the dates on the documents are all prior to her being reported missing.

The question is, who was the trigger person that was supposed to start the ball rolling and why did they slip up? Someone unknowingly disrupted their plan and it didn’t get off when it was supposed to with reporting Teresa missing.

LE had to play catch up and rework the reports they had made, but it’s clear now, the reason why reports don’t match is because they forgot to update all of them or couldn’t.

[–]WiskeyMcQueen

> "She was wearing blue jeans, white button-down shirt, and a spring jacket."

What I'm finding perplexing is the description in the poster of what she wearing.... Isn't that the exact description as given by Steven Schmitz, but he wasn't questioned until a later date, if I recall correctly?




[–]N64_Controller

Schmitz was questioned on 11/03; CASO page 6.

The poster contained a description of Teresa's clothes that was provided by Schmitz on 11/03.

How does Steven Schmitz fit the conspiracy if the poster was created on 11/02?

[-]magiclougie

Perhaps the description in the poster of what Teresa was wearing came from Scott Bloedorn, since he saw her at home on 10/31, per Karen Halbach in her 11/3 call to CASO.

Then witness statements from Schmitz and Jo Ellen were falsified to backup what was described in the poster.

Poster: "She was wearing blue jeans, white button-down shirt, and a spring jacket."

Schmitz on 11/3/05, per Wiegert's report: "She was wearing blue jeans, a white button down shirt with a summer jacket, unknown color."

At Avery's trial in 2007, Schmitz testified that Teresa "had blue jeans on, button up white blouse and a spring jacket, waist length. I believe it was blue in color." When asked by Kratz, "How long did you say the jacket was that she had on?," Schmitz replied: "I would say about waist length. It was like a summer jacket."

Jo Ellen Zipperer on 11/6/05, per Dedering's report: "The photographer was dressed in blue jeans with a darker jacket (waist length) and some sort of white top."

Bobby Dassey on 11/5/05, per Dedering's report: She "was wearing a dark colored waist length coat."

Bobby Dassey on 2/27/06, per Dedering's report: She "was wearing black coat, black trousers."





Maybe Teresa never made it to Steven Schmitz's home because he never called her back, which would mean that Schmitz committed perjury at Avery's trial. Steven Schmitz is the brother of Todd Schmitz, who took the blame for Attorney General Peg L when she drove her state-funded car into a ditch while driving drunk. BTW, Schmitz's mother is a Halbach (Steven Schmitz's wife's mother is also a Halbach).

And Dawn Pliszka, potentially an agent or informant for WI-DOJ, scheduled Teresa's appointments. Teresa also may have been an agent or informant: she and Dawn started working for Autotrader around the same time, in October 2004.

[–]Casablank10

Guess who was serving on the board of "Youth Educated in Safety" at the time? You guessed it - good old Ken Kratz (and YES's founder, Jay Breyer, is lacking in morals and ethics as bad as Kratz).



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Steven's mother Dolores has said she believes Teresa Halbach is still alive. Her theory, which she voiced on Boston Radio Programme The Hill-Man Morning Show in January 2016 (video above), aligns itself with the theories that Avery was framed. Speaking about Teresa, Dolores said: "I don't think she's even dead." When the host responded, "Oh, Really?," Dolores said: "I don't think so. There's so many of them [that] say that." When asked if she believed that Teresa had cooperated with police in a conspiracy to set her son up, she replied: "It could be." When asked about the bones found in Avery's yard, Dolores questioned whether they were Teresa's bones at all.