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Wednesday, July 18, 2018

Unsolved Wisconsin Murders from the 1970s

DONNA WILLING

On February 26, 1970, the body of Donna Willing, 9-year-old daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Robert P. Willing, of Milwaukee, was found in a garage on Milwaukee’s North Side. She had been strangled and sexually assaulted.

EMMA FICK

On June 16, 1970, Emma Fick, 76, was murdered in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Her body was found in St. Mary’s Cemetery on the city’s south side. The coroner determined that she’d been killed by numerous blows to the head.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458891/16_jun_1970_emma_fick_bulletin/

In the reporting on Fick’s murder, we learn that she had a son who told authorities that she was planning on moving into a nursing home.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17463476/ficks_only_child/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17459172/22_jan_1943_oscar_fick_son_of_emma_fick/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458921/24_sep_1966_oscar_h_fick_gets_promotion/

The Green Bay Press Gazette covered the story.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/7705876/17_june_1970_emma_fick_found_dead_in/

As did the Sheboygan Press, replete with a picture of kids in a cemetery.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458408/widow_75_killed__police_probing/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/16149390/17_jun_1970_emma_fick_pt_2/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17463466/17_june_1970_emma_fick_death_scene_st/

And, of course, the Manitowoc paper covered it too.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458783/17_jun_1970_widow_killed_by_head_blows/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458764/17_jun_1970_emma_fick_death_scene/

Sadly, Emma Fick’s husband had passed away many years before in what can only be described as being a horrific manner.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17460327/05_aug_1921_flies_responsible_for_mans/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17460292/02_aug_1921_kick_of_horse_fatal_to_town

Emma Fick’s maiden name was Carstens.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77253015/emma-anna-fick

She had four brothers, and one of them was named Herman.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17459222/carsten_family_reunion/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17464175/gypsy_bands_and_the_county_line/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17459730/mcbs_chairman_herman_carstens_gives/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17464327/11_feb_1963_carstens_posse/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17459577/sheriff_carstens/

Emma Fick’s brother Herman was the Sheriff of Manitowoc County from 1929 to 1932; prior to that he was the Chairman of the Manitowoc County Board of Supervisors.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77247698/carstens

Very little has been written about Emma Fick since her murder in 1970. In 2012 a piece about unsolved murders in Manitowoc County was published, and it was reported that no progress had ever been made in determining who was responsible for the death of Emma Fick

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17464428/20_may_2012_emma_fick_unsolved/

In 1970, Elmer Scherer (cousin to Dolores Avery, Steven Avery's mother) was Chief of Police for the City of Manitowoc.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17458436/manty_pd_chief_elmer_scherer/

TERI LEE ERDMANN

On June 24, 1971, in an open field near the Moreway Department Store at 10130 W. Appleton Ave, Milwaukee, the body of Teri Lee Erdmann, 15, was found. She had been stabbed about 50 times and sexually assaulted. She was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Du Wayne L. Erdmann, of Milwaukee.

SUSAN LYNN KLEIST

On June 18, 1972, the body of 16-year-old Susan Lynn Kleist, who lived at 168 W. College Ave., Milwaukee, Wisconsin, was found in an Oak Creek field.

She had been stabbed at least 39 times in the chest and abdomen and was believed to have been sexually assaulted.

Her mother had discovered her daughter was not home when she returned from her job as a waitress late on Saturday, June 10th. Susan had intended to stay home that Saturday night, but when her mother returned home she found a note from Susan saying that she had gone bowling.

Susan's closest friend, Mary, said Susan told her over the telephone that night that she might visit her while Mary was babysitting at a neighbor's home. Since Mary lived several miles away from Susan, she said she thought Susan might have hitchhiked over to see her.

It was reported that Richard L. Greenier, 3033-A S. Clement Ave., Milwaukee, had been charged in the murder.

CYNTHIA JANE ALLEN

On July 1, 1972, 17-year-old Wisconsinite Cynthia Jane Allen's nude body was found partially hidden under branches in a wooded area at the edge of a field in the Town of Grover, Marinette County, Wisconsin.

She had been stabbed to death. 

A jacket and other clothing items were found hanging from nearby tree branches. 

She was last seen on June 11th walking alone after a dance at Marinette Catholic Central.

The coroner said that Cynthia Allen had only been dead for several days, which means she was held alive in an unknown location for about 17 days before she was killed.

TINA DAVIDSON

On Tuesday morning March 27, 1973, the nude body of Tina M. Davidson, 15, was discovered lying against a cyclone fence in Racine, Wisconsin. The cyclone fence was next to a pathway, which was south of the beach off of 17th Street, on the lakefront. Tina often hitchhiked in this area.

Tina was stabbed 61 times in the neck and chest, and was last seen alive on Monday evening, March 16, 1973.

Tina was a white female with long straight hair that was brown in color. Tina also had a slender build.

Tina was wearing a worn leather jacket, a dark sweater over a white blouse, brown baggy pants, and construction work boots. The clothes were never found.

She left her home in the 2800 block of 20th Street at around 7:30 p.m., after telling her mother, Kathleen Davidson, that the backpack she was carrying was filled with a friend’s clothes she had to return.

Davidson left her friend’s home in the 1500 block of Quincy Avenue around 9 p.m. She told three of her friends she intended to hitchhike west on Washington Avenue.

When Davidson did not return home, her mother said she thought her daughter was spending the night at a friend’s home.

“She did that sometimes,” Kathleen Davidson told Journal Times reporter Alice Anne Conner in one of the first stories on the murder.

Some 15 hours later, Kathleen Davidson found out her daughter was dead. Davidson would have turned 16 on April 1 of that year.

Several tips came in over the next couple of days about the Davidson murder. Journal Times reports indicate that police had several different descriptions of possible suspects and their vehicles.

One description was that Davidson had been seen with a man, aged 35 to 40, at an ice cream shop on Durand Avenue at about 9:30 p.m. the night she was killed. The man was described as about 5 feet, 8 inches tall, about 170 to 180 pounds, reddish hair and green eyes. Police said his car was bronze or gold in color.

Body Discovered on Beach
The Milwaukee Sentinel
March 28, 1973

Racine, Wis. – The nude body of a 15-year-old Racine girl, with 61 stab wounds in the chest and neck, was found Tuesday on a Lake Michigan beach on the city’s South Side.

Police said the murder victim was Tina Davidson, of 2810 20th Street., who would have been 16 Sunday. Authorities said she had not been reported missing.

An autopsy disclosed that the girl died as a result of massive hemorrhaging caused by a stab wound in the heart, Racine County Coroner David Cunningham reported.

Cunningham said that she had apparently been hit on the head first with a blunt instrument and knocked unconscious, “as indicated by the fact that there was hemorrhage of one eye.”

He added there were no clues and no suspect had been picked up.

The coroner said earlier that it appeared that the body had been dragged to the rocky area where it was found.

A 44-year-old woman walking a son along the beach discovered the body about 10 a.m.

The victim was a pupil at The Academy, a South Side school for pupils in the Racine Unified District with disciplinary problems. She formerly attended Washington Park High School.

The girl’s mother, Mrs. Kathleen Davidson, told a report that she last saw Tina about 7:30 p.m. Monday.

“She was here with a friend with whom she had been going from time to time when I got home,” said Mrs. Davidson.

“A little later he left – he had a bicycle last night, but he does have a car.

“Right after he left, Tina went to her room and came out with a canvas bag. She said she had some clothes in it and was going to take it to a friend’s house.

“I didn’t get worried when she didn’t come back because she often slept overnight at homes of her friends.

“The next thing I heard about Tina was about 4 p.m. today when the coroner and police came here and told me her body was found on the beach.”

Tina’s girl friend told police that Tina left her house about 8:30 p.m. Monday, saying she was going to another girl’s house. She never arrived there, Cunningham said.

He added, “She hitchhiked all over town. That was her mode of transportation.”

Mrs. Davidson said that another daughter, Bonnie Jacobs, 23, lives with her. Mrs. Davidson said that she last heard of her husband “several years ago.” She said that she believes that he is living in the Washington (D. C.) area.

DEBRA SUKOWATY

On October 2, 1976, the body of a Debra Sukowaty, 18, was found in a gravel pit in an area north of Manitowoc near County Highways Q and VV. She was last seen on September 24th.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438292/q_and_vv/

This is the story of Debra Sukowaty and Ronald Fencl.

Sukowaty was to report as a waitress at the Big Boy restaurant on September 24th but she never showed up for work.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17439899/a_man_namedget_outta_here/

You've got your common rumor mongering......

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437197/rumor_mongering/

Funny, or not so funny business with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab........

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437392/funny_crime_lab/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437447/no_blood_found_in_cars/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438110/09_jun_1978_no_blood_on_jacket/

And too bad they didn’t have that pesky Denny ruling to contend with yet.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438147/dc_eagles_did_it/

Like Steven Avery, Fencl was portrayed as some kind of horn-dog who couldn’t keep it in his pants.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438234/unrequited_love/

Miscommunication between LEO’s.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17439381/miscommunication__again/

His awyer who wasn’t acting in the best interests of his client.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438435/lawyer_acting_in_bad_faith/

Missing records.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438578/missing_records/

Lawsuits.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438734/hilton_did_it/

And like Steve Avery, Ronald Fencl was no stranger to the law.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437068/12_apr_1975_man_bound_over_for_trial/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437121/10_jul_1975_ronald_fencl_indecent/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437144/02_jan_1976_ronald_fencl_reckless_use/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17313720/07_jan_1976_60_day_jail_term_ordered/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438824/09_sep_1977_paiderfencl/

On November 7th, 1977, Ronald Fencl was charged with first degree murder in the death of Debra Sukowaty.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17439318/04_oct_1977_sukowaty_woman_was_murder/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17439922/10_oct_1977_sukowaty_disappearance/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437267/08_nov_1977_manitowoc_man_24_charged/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437345/11_nov_1977_hearing_scheduled_in_murder/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437563/17_nov_1977_fencl_bound_over_for_trial/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17313960/fencl_bound_over_for_trial_bail/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437572/17_nov_1977_fencl_pt_2/

Sukowaty was the niece of Joseph Sukowaty, who ran for the office of Sheriff of Manitowoc County in 1976.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17439464/joseph_sukowaty/

Sukowaty was the cousin of Carmen Boutwell.

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/htrnews/obituary.aspx?pid=177774999

Due to pre-trial publicity, Fencl’s lawyers had tried to get a change of venue out of Manitowoc County but were unsuccessful in doing so.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17437866/03_feb_1978_fencls_trial_is_not_moved/

The trial was swift.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17315673/08_jun_1978_fencl_knew_areas_pt1/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17315680/08_jun_1978_murder_trial_continues/

On June 10th 1978, Ronald Fencl was found guilty of murdering Debra Sukowaty.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17315556/10_jun_1978_fencl_found_guilty/

He was sentenced to life in prison.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438321/15_jul_1978_gets_life_term/

In 1979, Fencl sought a retrial.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438420/07_sep_1979_fencl_seeks_new_trial_in/

And like the Avery case, some of the court files went missing.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17313066/14_dec_1979_ronald_fencl_trial_records/

Hearings, hearings, and more hearings…...

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438595/26_jan_1980_new_trial_hearing_is_feb_14/

Until, surprise of all surprises, he was denied a new trial by Judge William Carver.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438617/01_nov_1980_judge_denies_new_trial_for/

In 1989, Fencl sued authorities when he was held captive in a prison uprising.

One other common thread between Steven and Mr Fencl is that their mothers never gave up on them.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17315173/02_mar_1989_inmate_sues_in_waitress/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17438705/02_mar_1989_lawsuit_pt2/

And on a strange, but true, side note…..

Judge Carver? The guy who denied Fencl his new trial?

Oh yeah, he and his daughter need a whole thread onto themselves.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17075511/03_apr_1993_new_twist_in_gambling_case/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17057192/11_sep_1998_law_not_followed_in_carver/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17057488/11_sep_1998_carver_still_not_booked_pt2/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17059481/31_mar_2001_jilted_wife_charged_for/

Oh, and that gravel pit in Shoto where the body of Debra Sukowaty was found?

The pit was owned by the same family that owns the pits adjacent to Avery salvage yard.

https://imgur.com/f2e3edl

https://imgur.com/t2eEsY4

There is something else that’s very very interesting about this neighborhood, and it involves a reclaimed gravel pit. The story goes that a new subdivision was created, and some of the current residents of that subdivision are major players in Steve and Brendan's cases.

70's murder of a young woman found in Radandt's gravel pit? Only miles from the one where Halbach's bones were found? And to top it off this guy said he was innocent too......

The 18-year-old, Debra Sukowaty, killed in 1977 and left in the quarry, seems to be the aunt of Carmen Boutwell, who died the day Teresa Halbach was reported missing. Obit of Carmen's aunt also mentions a Tom Tadych.

This girl goes missing and this guy says he finds her stuff in his car and freaks out and throws it into the river. Said stuff is found along with a ticket connected to him, so the cops find him. The guy, Ronald Dennis Fencl, denies everything but he's convicted of 1st degree murder. They found what they said was a hair of hers in his car.

Debra was found in a gravel pit (one newspaper said it was an abandoned gravel pit). It was believed she was killed at that spot with hits to the head.

Sukowaty is Carmen Boutwell's mother's maiden name.

Carmen's mother: Judith Sukowaty Boutwell Wilson

Carmen's father:
John R Boutwell DOB 12/10/1960
ETA: I believe he died on 7/20/2009

Debbie Sukowaty was Carmen's cousin. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/htrnews/obituary.aspx?pid=177774999

"Joseph Sukowaty was also preceded in death by: (among others) ...one granddaughter: Carmen Boutwell... and one Niece: Debbie Sukowaty."

Debbie's parents were Leroy and Virginia, Carmen's great uncle and great aunt.

Carmen's mom and Debbie would have been cousins. Joseph - grandpops had three children, Leroy had Debbie, and one of his daughters had X, who was Carmen's mother.

Check out this obituary from 2010 for a Sukowaty that lists as survivors a Debra Sukowaty and Tom Tadych, Manitowoc.

http://www.wieting-funeralhome.com/memsol.cgi?user_id=888952

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;jsessionid=38DCBD1CA01A988AEF7788F3D75E8D13.render6?caseNo=1998FA000089&countyNo=36&cacheId=F25D6A513AE99697C576465D6F3D3744&recordCount=26&offset=25

Any link to the anonymous letter? SIKIKEY?

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Trial-Exhibit-497-Investigator-Riddle-Report-on-Anonymous-Letter-KT.pdf

Debra Sukowaty
Last seen 9/24/77
Body Found 10/2/77
Pamela Claflin
Last seen: 9/13/93
Body Found: 9/21/93
Teresa Halbach
Last seen: 10/31/05
Remains found: 11/8/05
8 days, 8 days, and 8 days respectively.

It's just TOO weird that all of these women disappeared, and then 8-9 days later their bodies are found in an open area, isn't it? How many sloppy murderers are there in Manitowoc? Or, is there one very skillful one who targets women who've been with men who are easy to pin a murder on?

Someone has started another post after learning of two new killings in area and added one where the body was found near Zander Road area or Morrison:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/4do45j/guilters_say_there_is_no_such_thing_as/

Let's organize this:
  • Judith Boutwell (Carmen's mother, alive) = Judy Wilson = Judith Sukowaty (maiden name), DOB 04-1964
  • Debra Sukowaty - disappeared on 09-24, 1977 , DOB 10/9/1958
  • Lynabelle Sukowaty, died in 2010, DOB 1933
  • Debra Sukowaty (alive in 2010, one of 6 daughters of Lynabelle Sukowaty), husband (??) Tom Tadych (connection to Scott Tadych)
  • Judy Sukowaty (alive in 2010, is another daughter of 6 daughters of Lynabell Sukowaty).....is it the same person as Judith Boutwell (Carmen's mother)?; might be the mother of Carmen
  • Carmen's Boutwell Great Grandmother was Salome (Schmitz) Sukowaty (on mother's side)
  • Garmen's Boutwell Grandfather, Joseph Sukowaty (died 2016, son of Salome Sukowaty)
Where is connection to Debra Sukowaty who disappears in 1977? Who's daughter/sister she could be???

Based on obituary, Lynabelle Sukowaty had one more daughter who died before her. 


DAWN MARIE SCHNETZER 

On November 4, 1978, the nude, decomposing body of 17-year-old Dawn Marie Schnetzer of Menasha, Wisconsin, was found in a wooded area off of Willow Road near County Road BB, in Calumet County, Wisconsin.

She was last seen on September 15th, after being dropped off by a motorcyclist (a man she met in a Hortonville tavern) in the 600 block of Broad Street, where it's believed she was going to visit a friend.

A farmer found Dawn's decomposed body propped against a log in a wooded area.

Either she had been strangled or her throat was cut.

She was wearing only red and white socks. 

Her undergarments and T-shirt were found hanging in a nearby tree.

A pathologist was unable to determine the exact cause of death because of body decomposition.

In 2013 police released photos of a plaid shirt linked to the murder.




1978 murder of Menasha teen not forgotten
USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin
September 6, 2016

MENASHA – Residents of this community haven’t forgotten Dawn Schnetzer.

It’s been nearly 38 years since the 17-year-old girl disappeared after being dropped off by a motorcyclist in the 600 block of Broad Street. Roughly six weeks later, her decomposed body was found by a farmer in the Calumet County Town of Woodville, just east of Sherwood.

While it has the appearance of an unsolvable case, authorities say it remains under active investigation – including scientific testing of crime scene evidence, examining potential suspects and interviewing people who were acquainted with her.

And plenty of people were acquainted with Schnetzer, said Investigator Stephanie Gruss of the Menasha Police Department.

“Periodically, we get people calling in about Dawn,” said Gruss, who is working with Calumet County Sheriff’s Department detectives on the Schnetzer case. “They still remember her and know of her. Dawn was well-known in the community.”

Gruss says it’s important for investigators to learn as much about Schnetzer as they can through friends, acquaintances and relatives of those who knew about Dawn and her lifestyle.

“That’s what we need – that base information,” Gruss said.

Learning as much as possible about Schnetzer could be the key to finding her killer, according to Gruss.

“I found it beneficial to focus on her and how she conducted her life,” Gruss said. “I think that will someday lead us to who (killed her).”

Despite the long and detailed investigation into her death, investigators continue to look for every bit of information they can about Schnetzer.

“It’s definitely an open book,” Gruss said. “It’s a book that’s still being written.”

Lt. Mark Wiegert of the Calumet County Sheriff’s Department said investigators are taking a deliberate approach in trying to determine what happened to Schnetzer.

“We’re still taking baby steps,” he said. “We are continually looking at the case and evaluating where we’re at.”

Wiegert, along with Gary Steier, a sergeant-investigator with the sheriff’s department, told USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin that some evidence from the Schnetzer case has already been tested at the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Va., and other items are being examined there now.

They declined to divulge any test results.

“We continue to do some testing and follow up on leads,” said Wiegert. “(The case) is a work in progress." 
Wiegert said improvements in technology can lead to breakthroughs in unsolved cases – even those as old as Schnetzer’s.

“We know these cases get solved (decades) later,” he said. “Hopefully we can bring some justice for Dawn’s family.”

Investigators ask anyone with information about 1978 murder victim Dawn Schnetzer to call Sergeant/Investigator Gary Steier of the Calumet County Sheriff’s Department at 920-849-2361, ext. 791; Investigator Stephanie Gruss of the Menasha Police Department at 920-967-3500; or Calumet County Crimestoppers at 877-SOLVE CRIME.

Dawn Schnetzer’s body was found on Nov. 4, 1978, by a farmer who was cutting wood. But the story of what happened to the Menasha girl and the mystery surrounding her disappearance began unfolding two months earlier. Schnetzer reported to work on Sept. 15 at the former Hortonville Manufacturing Co. – better known as the toy factory – to work a shift as a toy painter. After leaving work that night, Schnetzer visited a Hortonville tavern.

A man gave Schnetzer a ride home on his motorcycle, dropping her off early the following morning in the 600 block of Broad Street, a short distance from where she was staying with a friend. It was the last time Schnetzer was seen alive.

Then came the report of an unidentified body discovered in Calumet County. The remains were found just north of then-Calumet County B and Brant St. John Road, which is now known as Willow Road. County B is now known as County BB. The site of the discovery is a short distance from U.S. 10 and 3 miles east of Sherwood.
Dawn's body was found two miles north of the home of Teresa Halbach, who disappeared on Halloween 2005, 27 years after Dawn was murdered.

CHERYL SPAETH DUVALL

In 1988, a Manitowoc, Wisconsin woman named Cheryl Spaeth-Duvall disappeared without a trace.

Cheryl Spaeth Duvall was 38 years old went she went missing. She had divorced and was last known to be living on a farm just outside the city of Manitowoc.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17547256/18_nov_1972_cheryl_spaeth_duvall/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17548523/25_aug_1973_mrs_michael_duvall/

A sister and her ex-husband filed a missing persons report in 1988, but the case went cold because of limited information.

In June 2006, Speath-Duvall’s family asked Sheriff’s authorities to take another look at the case due to advances in forensic testing.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17614704/11_jan_2007_police_search_farm_for/

They searched the properties of the gentlemen with whom Spaeth-Duvall had been living when she disappeared. It was not his first brush with the law.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17548459/13_dec_1974_john_m_neuser_shining_deer/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17548263/28_jul_1979_case_is_dismissed_by_judge/

There was another write-up in the local paper about a year later. The gentleman whose properties were searched hired an attorney and was not cooperative with authorities.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17235417/24_jan_2008_missing_woman_case_still_a/

There’s been only one other write-up about Cheryl Spaeth Duvall, which was in 2012.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/17614923/20_may_2012_cheryl_spaeth_duvall/

What story about a woman who went missing long ago in Manitowoc would be complete without a tie-in to the 2005 story?

Oliver Mott (1885–1972) and Willard Mott Jr (1883–1972) were the sons of Willard and Anna Chaloupka Mott. Oliver had a daughter named Cathern Mott who married Joseph Spaeth. Their daughter was Cheryl Spaeth Duvall. Loretta Mott was the daughter of of Willard Jr and married Earl Avery. One of their sons is Allan Avery, so Allan is Cheryl's cousin. Allan is Steven Avery's father.

Sunday, November 27, 2016

Did Teresa Halbach Make All Her Stops, Schmitz, Zipperer and Avery, in That Order? [Updated 06-14-2017]

kratz-how-to-make-a-murderer
Making a Murderer: 'Secret Courtroom Signal' Made by Ken Kratz to Scott Tadych

In the clip below, Scott Tadych, Steven Avery's brother-in-law, takes to the stand to be questioned by Avery's lawyer, Dean Strang.

In the screen shot above and the clip below Ken Kratz appears to be giving a cecret signal to Scott by brushing his finger across his lip.



But as the camera pans across to Kratz, he can be seen subtly moving his finger across his lip, a signal which some viewers believe is directed at Scott in a bid to stop him from talking.

The apparent hand gesture was brought to light by Twitter user Ian Atkinson who said: "Ooh little, finger symbol there, little symbol to him [Scott Tadych]. 'Shut up Scott'."



At the time of questioning, Scott was attempting to affirm his alibi.

kratz-how-to-make-a-murderer 2

Kratz was caught on camera, implicating both himself and Scott.

Summary of Scott Tadych's interviews and statements:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/71m2uu/summary_of_scott_ts_interviews_and_statements/

Saturday, November 26, 2016

Why Did Loof the Bloodhound Alert on Teresa Halbach's Scent at the Cul-de-sac on Kuss Road? [Updated 6-12-2017]


The driveway to Joshua Radandt's deer camp is off the Kuss Road cul-de-sac. A field road from the Avery property leads to the cul-de-sac, and vice versa. Click here for a photo tour of Kuss Road, the driveway to Radandt's deer camp, and the area around the quarry by sweatyuncle_steve at reddit on May 29, 2017.

Included in Kathleen Zellner's August 26, 2016 motion is CASO Deputy Rick Riemer's report of activity for November 7th (exhibit D of Zellner's motion and CASO file page 138). Riemer wrote that he and Fauske walked Radandt's quarry and the surrounding field area with a bloodhound named Loof, and Loof tracked to "the south entry door" of a "red trailer" and "was very intense on this track." He also wrote that "this track continued in a westward direction to a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road" (go to page 43 of Zellner's October 23, 2017 motion to read her explanation about Kuss Road).

Riemer's report is as follows (slightly paraphrased):
"I assisted Sarah Fauske, a patrol officer from Kaukauna Police Department, and her bloodhound, Loof, with tracking. We walked the Radandt quarry and field area on different tracks, covering five to 10 miles. One of the more significant tracks that Loof tracked was from the south entry door of the red house trailer near the concrete stoop, and this track continued in a westerly direction toward a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road. Fauske indicated that Loof was very intense on this track."
In the report it is unclear if Riemer is referring to the red trailer at Avery Salvage Yard or a red trailer at Radandt's deer camp, but he does specify that he and Fauske were in Radandt's quarry and the surrounding field areas when they walked the five to 10 miles of tracks with Loof the bloodhound. And since Zellner included Riemer's report as an exhibit in her motion, the logical conclusion would be that Riemer is referring to a red trailer at the deer camp in Radandt's quarry (image below).





UPDATE JUNE 12, 2017: Attached to Kathleen Zellner's June 7, 2017 motion for post-conviction relief is a report by Loof's handler, which states that on November 7, 2005 Loof the bloodhound, tracking Teresa Halbach's scent, walked around Avery's premise, garage and trailer and had shown interest at areas there. This means the trailer that Loof hit on was Avery's red trailer, not the red trailer that had been at the deer camp. The following is Loof's handler's report for activity on November 7th.
We walked down the driveway to the Avery property to the area where the van was sitting and for sale. I pre-scented K9 Loof and did a perimeter scent inventory. K9 Loof was harnessed, given the scent article of the insole and given the command of "Find".

Having started approximately 50 feet east of the van, K9 Loof immediately went to the front portion of the van for sale. K9 Loof continued west going to a black F350 parked in the driveway in front of a garage. K9 Loof went to both doors of the truck. K9 Loof then went directly to the service door of the garage and worked her nose along the bottom of the actual overhead garage door, showing much interest.

K9 Loof worked west around the side of the garage but was unable to continue due to a large aggressive appearing German Shepard. K9 Loof wanted to continue around the garage.

K9 Loof went up to the south door of the trailer home. The door having a small porch entrance and the door was white in color. K9 Loof wanted to enter the home. K9 Loof continued north along the trailer and went between some pine trees and a burning barrel. K9 Loof smelled a charred area showing some interest then continued west.

K9 Loof went west in a picked cornfield. Directly to the south was a gravel pit and in between the two was an area of brush and trees. K9 Loof worked this area with indications of very strong scent. K9 Loof worked west coming out to a cul-de-sac that was taped off with crime scene tape and two deputies were not allowing access. K9 Loof crossed the tape on one occasion and then was told not to go any further. The deputies phoned Sheriff Pagel to see if I could continue but were told to not allow anyone access at this time.



UPDATE JUNE 12, 2017: Also attached to Zellner's motion for post-conviction relief file is an affidavit from Joshua Radandt. The following is an excerpt (see also, Ken Kratz "Shuffled" the Burn Barrels, Which is How "Deer Camp Burn Barrel #2," the Only Barrel to Contain Bones, Became "Janda Burn Barrel #2").
"Later that week I received a call from law enforcement on my cell phone. Law enforcement asked me to unlock my three hunting trailers so they could be searched. I left work and drove to the hunting camp. When I arrived there was nobody there. I unlocked my trailers and left.

"It is my understanding that they were searched by law enforcement and scent tracking dogs.

"Later that day law enforcement called my phone again. They informed me they completed their search and I could use them again normally.

"During the course of the conversation law enforcement informed me that they were going to collect the contents of the burn barrel at the hunting camp at a later time. When I returned to camp they had the area cordoned off surrounding the burn barrel and had officers to watch the burn barrel day and night on a rotating basis until its contents were collected.

"A few days later I remember seeing light in the Manitowoc county sand and gravel pit to the south of Radant's property. I remember that the lights appeared to illuminate the entire Manitowoc county pit."


Brutus‏ @cadaverdogbrutu
Pagel and his Kuss road blockade...turns the true heroes away on the day...sniffer dogs. Unbelievable. #hownottorunalegitinvestigation

TickTockManitowoc @TManitowoc
Picture this scene: "Any sign of my missing Teresa?" "No sorry, Ms. Halbach..our sheriff blocked the search and rescue dogs from looking."



Zellner is seeking a judge's permission to allow advanced DNA and scientific testing on the pelvic bones found in the burn pile at Radandt's quarry [CASO Property No. 8675] and on burnt material found at Radandt's deer camp [CASO Property No. 7958 and 7953] off the seldom-traveled stretch of Kuss Road.

Zellner wrote in her August 26, 2016 motion that bones found in Radandt's quarry, which included a pelvis, were suspected to be human:
"State expert Leslie Eisenberg testified that the volume of bones discovered in the burn pit was 'two-to three-fifths of what might be expected.' Dr. Eisenberg also admitted that the bones had been moved prior to their location in Mr. Avery’s burn pit. Dr. Eisenberg testified that she suspected that the bones found in the Radandt quarry, which included a pelvis, were human."
During Zellner's press conference on August 26, 2016, she said that only 30 percent of the bones were recovered and 29 of the teeth were never recovered
"The bones were moved. That was admitted. There was a human pelvis found over in the quarry. The bones were in different spots. The body was not burned whole. It's not possible to do that. So you've got the same bone in three different places. You've got only 30% of the bones recovered. You have 29 of the teeth never recovered. The bones look like they were planted. The property was closed down. The coroner from Manitowoc was not allowed on the property and actually was not notified it was a murder—that violates the Wisconsin statute."
In Zellner's motion, she wrote that Sgt. Andy Colborn of MTSO discovered Teresa's RAV4 on November 3rd, at which time it was seized by MTSO; and then on November 4th, after the CASO flyover, it was moved from Radandt's quarry to the Avery property using the conveyor road:
"On November 3, 2005, Officer Colborn discovered the victim’s vehicle and called dispatch, on a personal line, to confirm the victim’s license plate number. On November 3, 2005, according to the Manitowoc County Sheriff s Department reports, Ms. Halbach’s vehicle was seized. Ms. Halbach's vehicle was moved to the southeast corner of the Avery property on the evening of November 4, 2005 after Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel and Investigator Wendy Baldwin conducted a flyover of the Avery salvage yard. Ms. Halbach's vehicle was moved from the Fred Radandt Sons, Inc. quarry to the Avery property using the conveyor road that led onto the Avery property from the quarry."
Keep in mind that around 8 p.m. on November 4th, Chuck Avery saw headlights in the area where the RAV4 would be found the next morning.

Zellner also wrote that Steven Avery contends the victim’s key and bones were planted on his property on November 7, 2005 and were discovered on November 8, 2005:
"Non-law enforcement individuals were also allowed to enter the property after the property was closed to the general public. Two of those individuals were untruthful in their police interviews. Mr. Avery will present his third party theory in his post-conviction petition that he will file once he obtains the new test results. Individual A [Joshua Radandt] accessed the  property from the quarry four times, for some unknown reason, after it had been closed to the public. Specifically, Individual A accessed the property within minutes of Officers Colborn and Lenk on November 5, and twice on November 7. Prior to anyone realizing that Ms. Halbach’s body had been burned, Individual A gave a statement in which he described seeing a fire in a burn barrel behind Mr. Avery’s garage on October 31, 2005. Subsequent investigation has determined that Individual A’s statement is contrary to the facts; Mr. Avery’s burn barrel was never behind his trailer or garage, and it was impossible for Individual A to observe Mr.  Avery’s backyard as he described because of the elevation of the quarry from where he was allegedly making his observations.

"Individual B [Ryan Hillegas] accessed the property using a false name... Individual B received approximately 22 calls from law enforcement on November 4, 2005, prior to the victim’s vehicle being moved onto the property. Individual B accessed the Avery property twice on November 7, 2005 and once on November 8, 2005 after the property was closed to the public. Mr. Avery contends that the victim’s key and bones were planted on November 7, 2005 and were discovered on November 8, 2005."
On April 9, 2016, Kathleen Zellner tweeted:
“All day re-tracing TH steps. No doubt she left Avery property alive. All roads lead to one door and it's not Steven Avery's.”
An interpretation of the tweet is as follows:
There are several roads in and out of Radandt's quarry into Avery Salvage Yard [Radandt's quarry is to the south, east and west of Avery Salvage Yard.] 

All roads from Radandt's lead straight to Avery Salvage Yard.








The hunting cabins at the deer camp in Radandt's quarry are pictured above as they were on November 4, 2005. There were three cabins and what looks like a shed or garage. One of the cabins/trailers appears to be red. Avery's red trailer is at the top of the image.

The smaller cabin (on the left in the image above) and the red trailer (the center cabin in the image above) at Radandt's deer camp are no longer there. When they were removed is unknown, but Radandt sold the deer camp almost a year to date after Teresa went missing.

Sometime after 2005 and before 2014, there were only two cabins (trailers) at the deep camp in Radandt's quarry, as pictured below.



solunaView of Reddit visited the deer camp at Radandt's quarry. The following is what he/she wrote about it on August 28, 2016:
  • The property was sold almost a year to the date after the TH murder.
  • The property and the access road is still an entry to the Radandt quarry.
  •  The property is very small and of little value for anyone, even as a "hunting" location due to the surrounding area.
  • The property was sold to someone from Sheboygan, WI. I have the name but will keep that to myself for doxxing reasons.
  • Radandt has relatives in Sheboygan and it is believed that the property is still in the family (if it wasn't, the road into the quarry would be closed off).
  • Trailers were moved and taken offsite. One of my concerns, and why I visited the actual camp, was to see if there was a foundation under any new trailers. There is not.
The "deer camp" theory was developed because of the trailers and the site changes. Joshua Radandt implicated himself by his early and far too detailed eyewitness accounts to law enforcement. The fact bloodhounds led right to the Kuss Road cul-de-sac only further complicates the issue. Human bones found on your property and you skate/are allowed on the Avery property during an active investigation? How is this possible?


When you place a cursor over a Google Maps satellite image of the deer camp at Radandt's quarry and right click on it, it displays the address as 13136 White Cedar Road. When you map the route to this address from Avery's, it takes you to the deer camp via Kuss Road.

Google doesn't properly map the driveway you would take through the woods at the end of the cul-de-sac on Kuss Road to get to the deer camp, but you can see that long driveway when viewing the satellite image (images above and below).







In the image below, the burn pile in the quarry is circled in red, Avery's trailer is circled in yellow, the location where the RAV4 was found in the "pit" at Avery Salvage Yard is circled in pink, and Radandt's deer camp is marked with the bullseye (it's actually to the left and below the bullseye).

The killer had three days before Teresa was reported missing to dispose of her body. The burn pile at the gravel mound in the quarry (circled in red in the image below) was far from any residences and would have been an ideal place to burn a body without being noticed.

The burn pile, although in the quarry, actually was on a section of land owned by the county.





Today, satellite images show mining of gravel west and northwest of Avery's trailer (image below); however, in October 2005 that area was a field with a vehicle-sized path running along the boundary with Avery Salvage Yard (image above). Because that field is now a quarry, you can no longer drive from the cul-de-sac on Kuss Road to Avery's trailer, but you still can drive from Kuss Road to the deer camp/hunting cabins in Radandt's quarry. This is visible in the image below and in the drone flyover of the Avery property from January 2016 (video below).



The image below is a screen shot from a video taken by a drone on October 31, 2016. You clearly can see that there now are only two trailers at Radandt's deer camp. There is a pine tree near the spot where the red trailer at the deer camp was located on October 31, 2005.

Drone Flyer of Avery Salvage Yard, October 31, 2016





Below is a screen shot from an episode of Evil Lives Here on the Investigation Discovery channel. It is an image of Avery's property after the bones were discovered on November 8, 2005 (the blue tarp in the image was placed over the burn pit after the bones were found). You can see tire tracks going to the burn pit and coming from the direction of the field track to Kuss Road ( image source). Could the burnt remains found in Avery's burn pit have come in this way?



Below are other photos of Avery's property, but they were taken either before the bones were discovered in the burn pit behind Avery's garage or on the day the bones were discovered and the blue tarp had yet to be placed over the burn pit. You can see tire tracks going to the burn pit.



Law enforcement had commandeered Avery's property, his sister's property, and Avery Salvage Yard on November 5, 2005 and did not release it until November 12, 2005. During those eight days, the Avery family was not allowed on their properties. Delores Avery had a golf cart that she stored in her garage, which is where it was found when cops searched Avery Salvage Yard for Teresa Halbach at 2:30 p.m. on November 5, 2005 (CASO page 82). It remained on the property until cops removed it and secured it on a sealed trailer on November 11, 2005 (CASO, page 239). A cadaver dog alerted on this cart (Avery's 2009 motion, page 8). Could the tracks going to the burn pit behind Avery's garage be golf cart tracks?



For more information on the bones found at Radandt's quarry, see the following:
Radandt Quarry May Hold Key to Teresa Halbach's Murder

Wednesday, July 13, 2016

The Bones Found in the Quarry, the "Burn Pile" or "Quarry Pile" in the Gravel Mound - PART 1


Kathleen Zellner's Press Conference on 8/26/16 [Full Transcript]

Zellner's Motion for Post-Conviction Scientific Testing, Filed on 8/26/16
Zellner's Motion to Hold Appeal in Abeyance and Suspend the Briefing Schedule, Filed on 8/26/16
There is mystery surrounding pelvic bones and a blood stain found at Radandt's quarry. 

In Kathleen Zellner's motion filed on August 26, 2016, she requested DNA testing on the pelvic bone(s). Zellner wrote:
"Mr. Avery is requesting DNA testing on all the alleged human pelvic bones recovered from the quarry property southwest of Avery Salvage Yard in order to conduct more advanced DNA testing to determine the origin of these bones."
During Zellner's press conference on August 26, 2016, she said that only 30 percent of the bones were recovered and 29 of the teeth were never recovered:
"The bones were moved. That was admitted. There was a human pelvis found over in the quarry. The bones were in different spots. The body was not burned whole. It's not possible to do that. So you've got the same bone in three different places. You've got only 30% of the bones recovered. You have 29 of the teeth never recovered. The bones look like they were planted. The property was closed down. The coroner from Manitowoc was not allowed on the property and actually was not notified it was a murder—that violates the Wisconsin statute."
Zellner wrote in her August 26, 2016 motion that bones found in the Radandt quarry, which included a pelvis, were suspected to be human:
"Most of Ms. Halbach’s bones and 29 of her teeth were not found in Mr. Avery’s burn pit. State expert Leslie Eisenberg testified that the volume of bones discovered in the burn pit was 'two-to three-fifths of what might be expected.' Dr. Eisenberg also admitted that the bones had been moved prior to their location in Mr. Avery’s burn pit. Dr. Eisenberg testified that she suspected that the bones found in the Radandt quarry, which included a pelvis, were human."   
There is a "questionable stain," that tested positive for blood, which was recovered from the quarry (CASO page 219; Property Tag No. 8479, rag with possible blood or rust stains; located at a quarry south of Avery Road).
"Special Agent RON EBBEN directed my attention back to his location and he did show me a rag with a brownish red colored stain on it. Upon walking away from that object, I did locate, what appeared to be, fresh blood in the gravel. Medical Examiner KLAESER did arrive at my location and did confirm that he did believe it also to be blood. I informed Medical Examiner KLAESER I had some concerns due to the fact we did have a substantial amount of rain within the past couple of days and felt it to be very odd that this could possibly be blood from the case we were working on. Medical Examiner KLAESER agreed although I did wish to collect the blood for evidentiary purposes. I did photograph the area of blood and did apply two drops of distilled water to a sterilized cotton swab and did swab the bloodstain. That stain was collected at l716 hours. At 1718 hours, I did a control swab of the gravel in the vicinity of the possible blood."
A DNA profile was developed that matched a male and it did not match Steven Avery, Bryan Dassey or Alan Avery (why only those three?). The stain is labelled as item CX. You can find it in Exhibit 313.

A full DNA profile was developed.

The following image displays the DNA profile, location found and the fact it tested positive for blood (DNA profile top left in picture). XY in the bottom row means it is a male. 

http://imgur.com/EJDW4ce

Here is the result that identifies it as not belonging to Steven Avery:

http://imgur.com/dtqP78E
The burnt bones in Radandt's quarry were discovered on November 8th. Cadaver dogs first hit on the quarry on November 5th, the day Joshua Radandt told Inv. Steier that he saw a big fire by Steven Avery's trailer around 4:30 p.m. on October 31st as he was driving to his deer camp/hunting cabins. After finding the RAV4 in the "pit" of Avery Salvage Yard, investigators may have starting looking for a body by expanding their radius from the RAV4; from the RAV4 to Radandt's quarry is not very far, and if the body and car were transported from the quarry to Avery's, there may have been some trace to lead a dog that way. Joshua Radandt and his company, Badgerland Aggregates, own almost all of the land around Avery Salvage Yard. Radandt was the first to mention that there was a fire on October 31st; everybody else, in their initials interviews, said there was no fire in Avery's burn pit.

Strang, Buting and Zellner all seem to point to the Radandt quarry as being the site of the murder and/or burning. So if Joshua Radandt wasn't the culprit, he'd have a pretty good motive to pin the crime on Avery. As for the police suggesting to Radandt that Avery may have wanted to pin the crime on him, we already know the police did this to Bobby Dassey. It seemed to have caused Bobby and other members of the family to turn on Avery (CASO file pages 84, 91-92, 113, 135, 187, 190, 195-196, 226, 519), and it may have caused Radandt to turn on Avery and make claims of a bonfire and a burn barrel.

The following is one of two statements that Joshua Radandt gave to police.

CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT

Complaint No.
05-0157-955

page 79
File Number

TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Interview of Joshua R. Radandt, M/W, DOB 11/10/74

DATE OF ACTIVITY: 11/05/05

REPORTING OFFICER: Inv. Gary Steier

On Saturday 11/05/05 at approximately 1:30 p.m. JOSHUA R. RADANDT signed a MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT Consent to Search Form for his gravel stone quarry, located at 12415 CTH Q, Two Rivers, WI 54245. The copy was witnessed by Sgt. NACK (#412) of the MANITOWOC COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT (See exhibit section).

At approximately 5:00 p.m., Inv. STEIER of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT had spoken with JOSHUA R. RADANDT at a deer camp off of Kuss Road on the edge of the RADANDT GRAVEL PIT. RADANDT stated on Monday, 10/31/05 at approximately 4:30 p.m., he drove up to his deer camp off of Kuss Road through his gravel pit property. JOSHUA RADANDT completed a written statement form. (See exhibit section). RADANDT informed Inv. STEIER on Monday shortly after 4:30 p.m., RADANDT was driving to his deer camp through his quarry where he observed a large fire on the STEVEN AVERY property located by the red house. RADANDT indicates he remembers it being right after 4:30 because he had had an employee that had just come to work to take another employee's shift at 4:30 p.m. RADANDT indicated it was a partly cloudy or partly sunny day and he had clear visibility from his location while he was driving to his deer camp. RADANDT indicated he did not observe any people standing next to the fire or any vehicles located on the Avery property.

Gary Steier, Inv.
Calumet County Sheriff's Dept.
GS/jk



The hunting cabins at the deer camp in Radandt's quarry are pictured above as they were on November 4th, 2005. There were three cabins and what looks like a shed or garage. One of the cabins/trailers appears to be red. Avery's red trailer is at the top of the image.

On August 26, 2016, Zellner wrote that Colborn discovered Teresa's RAV4 on November 3rd, at which time it was seized by MTSO; and then on November 4th, after the CASO flyover, it was moved from Radandt's quarry to the Avery property using the conveyor road:
"On November 3, 2005, Officer Colborn discovered the victim’s vehicle and called dispatch, on a personal line, to confirm the victim’s license plate number. On November 3, 2005, according to the Manitowoc County Sheriff s Department reports, Ms. Halbach’s vehicle was seized. Ms. Halbach's vehicle was moved to the southeast corner of the Avery property on the evening of November 4, 2005 after Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel and Investigator Wendy Baldwin conducted a flyover of the Avery salvage yard. Ms. Halbach's vehicle was moved from the Fred Radandt Sons, Inc. quarry to the Avery property using the conveyor road that led onto the Avery property from the quarry."
Keep in mind that around 8 p.m. on November 4th, Chuck Avery saw headlights in the area where the RAV4 would be found the next morning.



A bloodhound named Loof tracked track" (exhibit D of Zellner's motion and CASO file page 138) in a westward direction to a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road.

In 2005, from that cul-de-sac you could drive straight, along the edge of the field, on a non paved road, to Avery's trailer, or you could go right and drive another non paved road to Radandt's deer camp. In fact, in his November 5th statement, Joshua Radandt refers to the deer camp as being "off of Kuss Road" (page 79).

Included in Zellner's motion is CASO Deputy Rick Riemer's report of activity for November 7th (exhibit D of Zellner's motion and CASO file page 138). Riemer wrote that he and Fauske walked Radandt's quarry and the surrounding field area with a bloodhound named Loof. He also wrote that Loof tracked in a "westward direction to a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road."

Riemer's report is as follows (slightly paraphrased):
"I assisted Sarah Fauske, a patrol officer from Kaukauna Police Department, and her bloodhound, Loof, with tracking. We walked the Radandt quarry and field area on different tracks, covering five to 10 miles. One of the more significant tracks that Loof tracked was from the south entry door of the red house trailer near the concrete stoop, and this track continued in a westerly direction toward a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road. Fauske indicated that Loof was very intense on this track."
In the report it is unclear if Riemer is referring to the red trailer at Avery Salvage Yard or a red trailer at Radandt's deer camp, but he does specify that he and Fauske were in Radandt's quarry and the surrounding field area when they walked the five to 10 miles of tracks with Loof the bloodhound. And since Zellner included Riemer's report as an exhibit in her motion, the logical conclusion would be that Riemer is referring to a red trailer at the deer camp in Radandt's quarry.

UPDATE JUNE 12, 2017: Attached to Kathleen Zellner's June 7, 2017 motion for post-conviction relief is a report by Loof's handler, which states that on November 7, 2005 Loof the bloodhound, tracking Teresa Halbach's scent, walked around Avery's premise, garage and trailer and had shown interest at areas there. This means the trailer that Loof hit on was Avery's red trailer, not the red trailer that had been at the deer camp. The following is Loof's handler's report for activity on November 7th.
We walked down the driveway to the Avery property to the area where the van was sitting and for sale. I pre-scented K9 Loof and did a perimeter scent inventory. K9 Loof was harnessed, given the scent article of the insole and given the command of "Find".

Having started approximately 50 feet east of the van, K9 Loof immediately went to the front portion of the van for sale. K9 Loof continued west going to a black F350 parked in the driveway in front of a garage. K9 Loof went to both doors of the truck. K9 Loof then went directly to the service door of the garage and worked her nose along the bottom of the actual overhead garage door, showing much interest.

K9 Loof worked west around the side of the garage but was unable to continue due to a large aggressive appearing German Shepard. K9 Loof wanted to continue around the garage.

K9 Loof went up to the south door of the trailer home. The door having a small porch entrance and the door was white in color. K9 Loof wanted to enter the home. K9 Loof continued north along the trailer and went between some pine trees and a burning barrel. K9 Loof smelled a charred area showing some interest then continued west.

K9 Loof went west in a picked cornfield. Directly to the south was a gravel pit and in between the two was an area of brush and trees. K9 Loof worked this area with indications of very strong scent. K9 Loof worked west coming out to a cal-da-sac that was taped off with crime scene tape and two deputies were not allowing access. K9 Loof crossed the tape on one occasion and then was told not to go any further. The deputies phoned Sheriff Pagel to see if I could continue but were told to not allow anyone access at this time.






The image above is from November 2005. Radandt's deer camp is at the bottom of the photo. There were three trailers and what looks like a shed or garage.

Today, there are only two trailers, and no other outbuildings, at the deep camp in Radandt's quarry, as pictured below. Gone is the red trailer and a shed/garage (why would they depose of the trailer and shed/garage; could it be that forensic evidence would have placed Teresa and her RAV4 inside?).



Today, satellite images show mining west and northwest of Avery's trailer (image below); it was a field in 2005, with a vehicle-sized path running along the boundary with Avery Salvage Yard. You can no longer drive from the cul-de-sac on Kuss Road through the field to Avery's trailer, but you still can drive from Kuss Road to the deer camp at Radandt's quarry. This is clearly visible from the drone flyover video taken in January 2016 (below, see drone flyover video and screen shot from the video).





In the image above, Radandt's deer camp is marked by the large yellow box on the left, and Avery's trailer is marked by the smaller yellow box on the right. The image is a screenshot from the video below.



From the images below you can see that Badgerland Aggregates, Radandt's company, owns that parcel and other parcels surrounding Area Salvage Yard, including the fields west and northwest of Avery's that is now part a quarry..





The following is the other statement Radandt gave to police, as revealed by Kathleen Zellner in the motion she filed on August 26, 2016.



Zellner wrote in her August 26, 2016 motion that Joshua Radandt accessed Avery Salvage Yard four times during evidence collection. She also wrote that Avery contends that the victim’s key and bones were planted on his property on November 7, 2005 and were discovered on November 8, 2005:
"Non-law enforcement individuals were also allowed to enter the property after the property was closed to the general public. Two of those individuals were untruthful in their police interviews. Mr. Avery will present his third party theory in his post-conviction petition that he will file once he obtains the new test results. Individual A [Joshua Radandt] accessed the  property from the quarry four times, for some unknown reason, after it had been closed to the public. Specifically, Individual A accessed the property within minutes of Officers Colborn and Lenk on November 5, and twice on November 7. Prior to anyone realizing that Ms. Halbach’s body had been burned, Individual A gave a statement in which he described seeing a fire in a burn barrel behind Mr. Avery’s garage on October 31, 2005. Subsequent investigation has determined that Individual A’s statement is contrary to the facts; Mr. Avery’s burn barrel was never behind his trailer or garage, and it was impossible for Individual A to observe Mr.  Avery’s backyard as he described because of the elevation of the quarry from where he was allegedly making his observations.

"Individual B [Ryan Hillegas] accessed the property using a false name... Individual B received approximately 22 calls from law enforcement on November 4, 2005, prior to the victim’s vehicle being moved onto the property. Individual B accessed the Avery property twice on November 7, 2005 and once on November 8, 2005 after the property was closed to the public. Mr. Avery contends that the victim’s key and bones were planted on November 7, 2005 and were discovered on November 8, 2005."
The following are the date and times that Joshua Radandt signed in and out of Avery Salvage Yard during evidence collection:

First Log

11/5/06 – In at 5:25 p.m. with Travis Groelle; Out at 5:35 p.m. with Travis Groelle
11/6/05 – In at 5:08 p.m.; Out at 5:28 p.m.
11/7/05 – In at 6:59 a.m.; Out at  7:10 a.m.



Second Log, "Fire Personnel" (log starts on page 89)

11/7/05 – In at 11:51 a.m. (Radandt's name is misspelled) ; Out at 12:29 p.m.(page 93, "Civilian Volunteers with DCI").



Note that in the first log Radandt signed in and out with Travis Groelle, and note in the second log that the CASO officer overseeing the log misspells Radandt's name at sign-in; the second "d" is missing. This could be what Zellner was referring to in her motion when she wrote that "Individual B [Ryan Hillegas] accessed the property using a false name," and when she tweeted: "Fact: one person actually gave cops fake name to access property to help in TH search. #MakingAMurderer #TheStrangerBesideMe #Checkaduhid." Checkaduhid could mean "check a 'd' you hid," and "thestrangerbesideme" could be Radandt, whose property was adjacent to Avery's, or Ryan Hillegas, who signed in and out on November 5th with Radandt as Travis Groelle. The hashtags are in one tweet, so they are connected.



A Groelle and a Radandt are practically neighbors some blocks north of the Zipperers on County Road B.



[–]DeenahWeenah 

Zellner just stated in her most recent interview that they believe TH's killer was someone "close" to TH. That being said, was Radandt in ANY way connected to the Halbach family? If we can find a connection, then JR can be put on the suspect list.

[–]mmh150

Not saying Radandt is the murderer. People have talked quite often about some different ideas which converge with him: the quarry, the cabin and land grab. Sometimes people look the other way as long as it converges with their interests. It happens all the time in daily life. I don't think OP is even saying Radandt is the murderer. He is saying "the fix was on."

[–]mmh150

Thank you. I think that was the 1985 reason. It always heads back to this.

[–]sjj342

It seems like Jost did not know the information prior to November 8th.

Cynically - it seems like someone intentionally brought it up on the 8th, knowing that the bones had now been transported from the quarry site to the Avery property site. It would make sense that this someone did not want to directly be the one to discover the bones, and would prefer to have that done by someone else ignorant of the planting. It would also make sense that any transfer of the bones was done after November 5th once they essentially have the area cordoned off, the search party is not present, and the number of officers on the scene diminishes.

At the end of the CASO video that SkippTopp obtained is a video of a burn pile purported to be located to the south of the Avery Salvage Yard in the Radandt gravel pit. This link starts at that part of the video:

Calumet County Sheriff's Office Video from Avery/Halbach Investigation (Flyover Video)


In the video above, you don't see actual footage of the salvage yard on November 4th. The footage of the salvage yard was definitely after the vehicle was found on November 5th.
"At approximately 1319 hours, Sheriff PAGEL and I [Wendy Baldwin] arrived at LAKESHORE AVIATION. We met with CURT DRUMM and proceeded to fly over the last two known locations where TERESA HALBACH had been on l0/31/05. We searched the area until approximately 1754 hours."
We received less than 10 minutes of footage, which means that they only released about 3% of the video footage. Makes you wonder what they left out. And that chunk of those 10 minutes is from the 5th after the Rav4 was found. Somebody did a flyover on the 5th. It's right there in the video: the tarp was on the Rav4 between approximately 3 PM and 4:30 PM on the 5th. It appears that footage showing the tarped Rav4 area is from a helicopter, based on the sound, slow movement and sharp turns, so it's not the 11/4/05 footage with Curt Drumm. The CASO log sign-in sheet for November 5th shows "Eagle 3" signing in and out. That is the helicopter.

[–]SkippTopp

I believe the only video from the 4th is shown in the first few minutes of the video, whereas the rest of the video contains footage from other fly-overs that happened after law enforcement reportedly located the vehicle on the 5th. That would explain why the tarp can be seen.

It's hard to be certain, but it seems to be videos from multiple different fly-overs, all spliced together without any clear delineation between them. I believe the video from the 4th continues up through about 04:20, whereas everything after that is from different fly-overs done on the 5th or later. Right around 4:20, a lady's voice can be heard saying something like "this is where the car's supposed to be at... they're in the process of tarping it up right now..." - which implies this portion of the footage was taken on November 5th, soon after the vehicle was reportedly located by law enforcement.

[–]Ductit

I am curious if it was really the Michels Materials Quarry next to Avery Rd, and not to the Radandt Gravel Pit south of the salvage yard. You can here heavy equipment, large loaders or haul trucks beeping away nearby, but I am pretty sure the Radandt Gravel Pit (not a Quarry...) was shut down at that point...

Per Sgt. Bill Tyson:
I was informed several WI STATE PATROL officers found, what appeared to them, to be a charred human foot in the quarry south of Avery Rd. DCI Special Agent RON EBBEN was with me and he stated he would come with me since he did have some expertise in arson and identifying bones.
Upon walking north on Avery Rd., a state patrol officer did direct our attention south to the quarry. Upon walking down the embankment towards the quarry, I did notice two state patrol officers standing by a small area of standing water. The state patrol officers indicated they found, what they believed to be, a human vertebrae in the water. Special Agent RON EBBEN stated he would stand by at the possible human vertebrae while I continued to the area where the state patrol officers possibly found a charred human foot.
Continuing north through the quarry, I did locate a group of state patrol officers standing around an object. Upon making contact with them, they informed me they found something that resembled a human foot that was charred. Upon looking at the item, I could not distinguish if this, indeed, was or was not a charred human foot.
Special Agent FASSBENDER, Inv. WIEGERT and Sheriff PAGEL arrived with Medical Examiner MICHAEL KLAESER. Medical examiner KLAESER looked at the object and stated he did not believe it to be that of a human foot. Correctional Officer TODD KONEN arrived on scene and stated he would stand by with the object while I went to get a camera and evidence bags.
I would call it "east" of Avery Road, but I think its pretty clear when he notes that he is walking north on Avery Rd and then walks "down the embankment towards the quarry". 

I can tell you this with near certainty, the flyover footage from the 4th was intentionally blurred and manipulated so as for it to be impossible to see anything. Same thing with that burn pit video and the picture of the SA burn pit. The flyover footage from the 5th is great, you can see for miles and it was cloudy with a storm moving in on the 5th whereas it was a nice day on the 4th.

I am wondering if KZs Tsunami of evidence has to do with forcing them to turn over the digital negatives for all pictures and videos. If she gets those, as I am sure she is well aware, then MTSO is fucked.

Who Discovered the Quarry Bones, and When?
By parminides at Reddit

A few weeks ago, someone posted something about the pelvic bone from the quarry. I think the OP or the subsequent comments alleged that there's no documentation available about who discovered the quarry bones, or when they were discovered, or precisely where.

I found this claim pretty astounding. On the other hand, I could not find the information myself.

My interest in the bones was renewed by that mysterious footage at the end of the flyover video. So if anyone has a source for who discovered the quarry bones, when, and precisely where, I'd be much obliged if you'd share it with me.

[–]foghaze

No one knows or at least no one actually admitted during the trial. Defense closing statements even mentions how it's a mystery.

[–]foghaze

On 11/8 they announced they found bones behind Avery's in the burn pit when the only bone identified that day as being human and female was the ilium bone. Which the only thing that appears to be an ilium is from the quarry. Eisenberg never finds an ilium. If she would admit the bones in the quarry were human then the defense could tie it in with the ilium and they could say OHHH SO human bones were AT the QUARRY?? Well if that is so how do we even know TH was burned in the burn pit? You see? So that's why it's a big deal.

I've never felt like I needed details on who discovered the quarry burn site because it is so blatantly clear that it was someone NOT connected to all the crooked framing crew (i.e. a member of the public or other LE), and they all preferred to not draw any attention to it because it so obviously flags how the framing was carried out. It was inconvenient evidence they never wanted connected to the case so I'm sure there is next to no proper record of how the evidence came to be submitted.

Given my theory on what happened to TH and the framing, I want to believe the quarry burn site plays a huge role in Zellner's exoneration case and hence will come to light very soon.

[–]OliviaD2

No one knows. and as far as I know, this ilium has disappeared. No testing was done on it... which is interesting. Supposedly it was taken to Bennett at his home on 11/08. If it was in such good shape he could suggest a young adult female, it might have been a good candidate for mtDNA testing (what is done with burnt bones). Since most of the others were in too bad of shape to get decent DNA. Why?

Summary of foghaze's analysis at Reddit by theinspiringdad.com:
All during the trail and all we have been hearing is Eisenberg testifying the only human-like pelvis bones were at the quarry. She is insistent about not knowing for certain if these bones are human (so is Kratz and Fallon). According to Ken Bennett, he positively ID the Ilium (pelvis) on 11/8 and it was not only human but female. This was the day the bones were found, and because of the positive ID, law enforcement were able to arrest Avery at this point because the bone was found on his property. The only problem is there are no ilium bones noted by Eisenberg in evidence at the burn pit on Steven’s property. The only thing that even resembles an Ilium is at the quarry. Eisenberg even states when she first saw the quarry bones she was convinced they were human but for some reason changed her mind and cannot say why. She never gives a good reason why she couldn’t say it was a human ilium. She just says she cannot say either way whether it is human or non-human.

Dr. Eisenberg also says she identified the gender with facial bone fragments from the pit. The reason she couldn’t use the pelvis is because this bone was now recorded in evidence as being at the quarry! If you know anything about identifying bones you know that the pelvis would be one of the fastest ways to do so if enough of it is still in tact. It is much faster than piecing together dozens of tiny facial bones which would have taken days. The state didn’t have this much time. Eisenberg later uses the facial fragments from the burn pit because the state gave the ilium bone from the quarry to Bennett for verification on 11/8 and even reported it in the criminal complaint as being from Avery’s back yard!

Why do you think it was such a big deal during trial that the state insist that Eisenberg doesn’t know if the pelvis like bone/ilium isn’t human? Because it would prove the bones that were positively ID as being female and human (Per Dr. Bennett on 11/8) were not on Steven Avery’s property but in the quarry! They were able to arrest Avery on the spot this day because of this ilium bone found. Had it been in the quarry it wouldn’t have been on his property.

What’s disturbing is the Halbachs were told on 11/9 that the bone found on Avery’s property was from a female. Even though they didn’t have a conclusive ID match, the Halbachs accepted the female bones found on Avery’s property was Teresa’s and even called off the searches! They were mourning Teresa’s death at a prayer vigil on Nov 10th based solely on a female bone found on Avery’s property!

Why didn’t the Halbachs wait for more conclusive evidence that the female remains were in fact Teresa’s? Is it because LE insisted the odds that the bones from another female other than Teresa found on Avery’s property were slim to none? Maybe if the Halbachs knew the bone actually came from the quarry they might have not accepted it was Teresa and still remained hopeful. The media even started reporting on 11/10 that the bones found in the burn pit on Avery’s property were female well before Eisenberg could verify it. Eisenberg had been out of town until 11/10 which is the whole reason Bennett was asked to do it on 11/8.

The fact we don’t have any pictures of the actual burn pit behind Avery’s house and the bone that was identified the very first day by Dr. Bennett as being the ilium (which we know came from the quarry) tells me that most likely all the bones may have been from the quarry or somewhere else entirely. All the human bones were spread out in 3 locations yet indicated they were all burned in one place. This means they had to have been moved. So if Eisenberg never saw the bones at Avery’s and all she got were containers marked with the location from where they were supposedly found how do we know all these bones didn’t actually come from the same place? We don’t. The fact that all the charred human bones indicated they came from the same skeleton and the same burn pile pretty much proves they came from one place, and if you trust the evidence that would be in the quarry where the pelvis/ilium is! LE needed the bones to be on Avery’s property to get the ball rolling on his conviction by 11/10, before the big scheduled deposition. November 10th is becoming more and more significant.



Sources:
Criminal Complaint document showing pelvis ID’d by Ken Bennett
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Criminal-Complaint.pdf

Bones in quarry – tag 8675
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/exhibit-bones-3.jpg

The hunting cabins at the deer camp and the "quarry pile" in Radandt's quarry (burnt bones were found in the "pile").


The area as it looks today. The quarry has been expanded north and westward into the field that led from Kuss Road to the edge of Avery's property. In the red circle on the left is Radandt's deer hunting camp. In the red circle on the right was the location of the quarry burn pile were female pelvic bones were found.

[–]RexAxisMundi

What's the deal with the mystery blood stain at the quarry? This is first I've heard of this.