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Wednesday, February 13, 2019

Kelly Pitzen, Teresa Halbach's Best Friend Forever


Kelly Pitzen Luedeke is a public school teacher in Wisconsin

Kelly Pitzen and Ryan Hillegas are key players. They phoned each other, for what appears to be the first time, in the days leading up to Teresa Halbach's disappearance. They called each other again on November 3rd, the day Teresa was reported missing. They were at Teresa's house together that same evening.

DCI agent Tom Fassbender wrote that Kelly advised him that Teresa "was one of her best girlfriends forever." And Kelly told him that she and Teresa shared a cousin on the Halbach side.



Is there a report that documents where Teresa's day planner page came from and how it came to be in possession by the police?

Here is Kelly Pitzen’s statement (excerpt) on which Kathleen Zellner’s theory is based:



Pitzen’s full statement about Ryan Hillegas having the schedule and calling a number on it (page 91 of Zellner’s October 2017 Motion - Exhibits):

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Oct-23-2017-Motion-for-Reconsideration-Exhibits.pdf

Pitzen’s statement about RH calling a number on the schedule makes no sense. The Sippel-Schmitz appointment in New Holstein doesn’t appear on the handwritten day planner:

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Exhibit-45-Halbach-day-planner.pdf

RH doesn’t have to be the one who removed the sheet from Teresa Halbach's RAV4. It could have been anybody, including Teresa.

Umbopus wrote at TickTockManitowoc

This post is about the fact that the phone call Ryan Hillegas made would have been to Sippel-Schmitz, and that information was not on the day planner. 

The call RH made was to Sippel-Schmitz and hence Pitzen’s testimony about the source of the ‘New Holstein stop’ is inaccurate.

Read Pitzen's full statement (page 91). Pitzen states that RH first phones a New Holstein number (Steven Schmitz in New Holstein) and then Scott Bloedorn phones another number.

Pitzen has no reason to state ‘New Holstein’ other than that she knows this from the appointment sheet or from the person they phoned saying so.

So Pitzen means Sippel-Schmitz.

I don’t think we have to strictly state that Zellner’s claims about RH having the handwritten planner on the afternoon of November 3 means she’s tying it to him retrieving it when the RAV4 was found.

Pitzen’s claims are from late afternoon of November 3, whereas the car can’t have been found till the night of November 3 or on November 4. Most logic points to the car being found on the afternoon of November 4, which I’m sure Zellner agrees with. So, hence, Zellner's accusations that RH had the handwritten planner on the afternoon of November 3 mean that her theory about ‘RH and the planner’ is separate from her theory about the car planting.

Again, I don’t think Zellner is necessarily stating ‘RH could only have made that call from the handwritten planner; rather, I think her interpretation of Pitzen’s statement must be that the handwritten planner is in his possession at that time because he made a call from it.

But my concern is that perhaps Zellner’s team hasn’t connected the dots that the ‘New Holstein’ call RH made was to Schmitz and hence cannot be from the handwritten notes on TH's day planner.

So deducing that RH had the handwritten copy at that time, because Pitzen says he made a call from it, is inaccurate logic since the call RH made was in fact to Schmitz.

I don’t think Pitzen is misremembering the call RH made: the ‘New Holstein’ detail she gives about the call is too accurate; she is remembering that correctly, I believe.

I am claiming that Pitzen is misstating where RH sourced the ‘New Holstein stop’ information from, because it is not possible that anyone could phone a New Holstein number based on the handwritten day planner.

The handwritten day planner references ‘Steve Sheboygan,’ which is Speckman; and Pitzen is not claiming RH (or Scott Bloedorn) phoned a Sheboygan number.

Pitzen is claiming RH phoned a New Holstein number (Schmitz) and Scott Bloedorn a Manitowoc number (Zipperer.) And I’m not refuting that Scott Bloedorn called Speckman in Sheboygan at some point (this is well documented).

But Pitzen mentions two calls:

1. RH to New Holstein (Sippel-Schmitz) - the phone number had to have come from the Autotrader fax sheet or from TH's phone records, but Pitzen’s statement leads me to believe it came from the fax sheet.

2. Scott Bloedorn to Manitowoc (George Zipperer) - the phone number could have come from either the Autotrader fax sheet or from TH's phone records, but Pitzen’s statement says it came from the phone records.

Here’s the clincher though: Pitzen says that they called the Manitowoc number because it ‘was an Autotrader number,’ which means they definitely had the October 31st fax sheet at that time.

Hence, my belief that that they used the October 29th fax sheet to make the New Holstein call to Sippel-Schmitz.

Scott Bloedorn calls Steven Speckman at some point, yes, but Pitzen never refers to this call.

Pitzen only refers to Sippel-Schmitz and Zipperer calls in her statement. As such, the handwritten day planner is not the source of either of Pitzen’s statement calls.

This is a murky question depending on where you stand with believing Wiegert at various stages of the investigation.

https://i.imgur.com/0x9ls5J.jpg

Wiegert's report, from the same time frame that Pitzen is referring to, indicates they did have incoming calls on her phone records that afternoon.

Personally, the tone of this early Wiegert report gives me the vibe that he’s fairly honestly reporting facts at this stage; that this is your garden variety factual police report.

I tend to believe Wiegert gets swept up in the tide of corruption at a later date. His initial attitude in the early days of the investigation appeared to be genuine and honest.

e.g. We hear him on a call saying he thinks Zipperer was after Avery. This is clearly before he starts playing into the dodgy and sneaky antics to frame Steven.

So I take that report as pretty pure and hence I feel there were incoming calls on the phone records. Others will disagree that nothing Wiegert says should ever be believed.

Notes:

a) It has been debated whether the ‘password’ story is even true. There are strong theories that RH/SB actually phoned Cingular and procured unlawful access to Teresa’s account, etc., which would explain why the miracle password story sounds so off. It would also explain why they had such comprehensive records, etc.

b) The Speckman calls are, in general, a mystery. Many question their validity/existence because they’re conspicuously absent from reports and records, etc. So that should be noted too.

I definitely don’t rule out that Kelly Pitzen might have some knowledge of the framing and it has contributed to her muddled details.

I believe a group was with RH at the vehicle in the Colborn call, hence RH hollering ‘the car’s here!’ to others: it makes sense Pitzen was part of that group.

We really have no reason to believe it was RH at all. He’s certainly a candidate, anyone that was an accessory to the car planting is a candidate.

Obviously, those 22 weird calls on his phone records point to him assisting with the planting, so he goes on the list of people that might have removed the day planner from the RAV4 (if that is, in fact, how it was obtained). But to be honest I don’t completely rule out other versions of events where Teresa made it home too (there isn’t really enough info around these topics to have a clear theory).

So honestly, this post has only one point to it: Pitzen’s statement is definitely muddled one way or another because the ‘New Holstein’ call RH made was Schmitz and that information is not on the day planner.

Teresa Halbach and Ryan Hillegas Talked by Phone Every Monday in October 2005 Except for October 31st

Fassbender wrote that Teresa "had been a childhood friend" of Kelly's and that "they went to school together right up to college and then kept in touch through college" (Teresa went to University of Wisconsin-Green Bay, and Kelly went to University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh, the same school Ryan Hillegas attended).

The following is a summary of Kelly's calls to Teresa's cell phone (call duration in parentheses). Teresa never called Kelly's cell phone number ending in 3588 from her own cell phone in 2005, which strongly indicates that Teresa had another cell phone that she used for personal communications.

Kelly calls to Teresa:

9/2, 8:33 PM (1:00)
9/2, 8:34 PM (:46)
9/5, 2:32 AM (:07)
9/5, 11:19 AM (:29) from parents' land line
9/10, 1:30 PM (:29)
9/14, 9:32 PM (1:17)
9/23, 9:06 PM (:27)
9/26, 5:33 PM (:54)
10/7, 4:35 PM (:44)
10/14, 5:31 PM (:35)
10/28, 8:30 PM (:28)
10/28, 9:32 PM (:13)
10/28, 9:34 PM (:54)

On October 28th, Ryan called Kelly, who, after talking to Ryan, seemed determined to get in touch with Teresa.

Kelly called Teresa three times on the night of October 28th. The first call went to voicemail. The next two calls appear to be three-way calls initiated by Kelly.



A bartender who was an acquaintance of Kelly called CASO dispatch and said that Kelly and Teresa were at his bar around midnight on Saturday, which could have been Friday night, which became Saturday at midnight.



John Dedering, retired detective for the Calumet County Sheriff's Office (CASO), opened a new investigation into the Halbach case in 2017, and as part of the 2017 investigation he interviewed Kelly Pitzen.

The following images are excerpts from the CASO reports filed by Dedering in 2017.




In August 2005, Kelly and Teresa went on a road trip through central Wisconsin, according to Kelly's November 13, 2005, interview with Post Crescent.

From the Post Crescent interview:

It was that sense of adventure that made childhood friend Kelly Pitzen want to stay close to Halbach.

In an impromptu road trip in August through central Wisconsin, the two women camped one night in a tent Halbach borrowed by her younger brother, Mike.

Pitzen saw a hole ripped in the tent. Alarmed someone could have been trying to get in, she nudged Halbach.

"That's nothing. I clawed my way out," Halbach told her. She needed to go to the rest room and had not been able to find her way out.

The next morning, they patched the hole with duct tape.

"We laughed for weeks," Pitzen said. "We did a lot of laughing during that road trip that my stomach was hurting."

Friends Remember Halbach, Known for Her Kindness and Tender Photos (Excerpt)
By Ron Seely
November 13, 2005

Hillegas and Pitzen said they cannot look enough at the photographs Halbach leaves behind, the world seen through their lost friend’s eyes.

“I look at the pictures on her walls,” said Pitzen, “and I know the story behind every one of them.”

Pitzen said her friendship with Halbach goes back to preschool. She said she will always remember her friend’s smile, her sincerity, her willingness to drop everything when someone needed her.

“I want others to know that Teresa was always the kind of person that people just gravitated toward,” Pitzen said. “She was always bubbly and smiling. And she was always there to listen. If you didn’t go to her for advice, you could be sure she would search you down.”

To a person, Halbach’s friends also fondly remembered another surprising trait, one that says something about her enthusiasm for life and which made each of them laugh as they explained.

Halbach could not resist a karaoke stage. She was fabulous, Pitzen and Hillegas recalled, and became an absolute ham when she took the stage.

“I think she liked the freedom it gave her,” Hillegas said. “She’d dance and point and play the character of the person in the song. We’re all going to do a karaoke in her honor.”

Sarah Kluth now lives in Chicago but has remained close to Halbach since the two met in college in Green Bay.

“I’ll never forget her genuineness, her sincerity, and how she honestly loved people,” Kluth said Saturday. “And she was such a faithful friend. I remember once I had to visit dairy farms for my job and I called Teresa and asked if she would go along and take some photographs. And there she was with her camera tromping through manure with me. It was just so cool to have a friend like that, who would laugh and say, I don’t care where we are or what we’re doing, I’m with you and that’s what is important.’ “

So powerful was the connection Halbach had with her friends that many of them have spent the last couple of weeks tirelessly searching for her.

Hillegas has done nothing else. He was the one who organized the searches and spent long days afield looking for his friend. It was what she would have done, he said.

The search is over now, of course. And updated news on the search has been replaced on the family’s Web page with a poignant summation.

“It seems as though we have achieved our goal of finding Teresa,” the note reads. “The hearts of our family go out to everyone who has a missing loved one or have had to cope with the murder of a family friend . . . We know we will see Teresa again in Heaven.”



Is Sarah Kluth the "Sarah" on Teresa's day planner (image above)? Why would Karen Halbach have Sarah's stuff? Was Sarah at the Halbach party on October 30, 2005?



Kelly, what else do you and Ryan Hillegas know about Teresa Halbach's disappearance?





Tuesday, April 10, 2018

The Men in Teresa Halbach's Life



The men in Teresa Marie Halbach's life in 2005: Ryan Hillegas, Chris McKenna, Bradley Czech, Scott Bloedorn and Wesley Bunnell (photos circa 2015).



And then there is Ken.

Ran across something today and can't shake it....
by localtruther, TickTockManitowoc
November 1, 2019

Where to even begin?! here goes....

This has to do with a chance meetings via myspace and many other variables that I am very hesitant to disclose but will anyway in an effort for this to make sense.

1st things first. Have you ever just had one of those gut feelings that just will not go away? Do you believe in things happening for a reason? Do you believe that there is no such thing as luck or chance? Have you ever thought that YOU just might be the one that holds the key to something?

Timeframe (late 1990's) I was asked to become a member of the Manitowoc County Deputies and Constables Association. As a member of this organization we attended meetings and some of us joined another interior organization to this one where you were sworn and eventually after training etc became what was known as the 'Possy'. Didn't really do much other than guard the water at local events but it was cool being asked and we were able to carry way before that became law.

During this tenure (until 2007 when Hermann took over) I can count on one hand how many of these events we actually helped with. 

One evening however I got a call about midnight by another Possy member to relieve him on the corner out near Avery's (about 2 miles away I am not going to disclose which one sorry) The only instruction I was given was NO ONE comes in or out of this intersection. This was Nov 7th if my recollection serves me. This 6 hour shift went on without issue.

During this roughly 8 or so years I obviously got to know most of the players in this debacle. 

In 2005 my divorce began - no relation to this - but suffice to say in mid 2007 it was finally over. 

This is when I put myself out there via myspace (LOL I know) and within a short period of time I had met this younger lady whom I chatted with often and eventually met up with. 

What is funny is that we both used our middle names as introduction while chatting and didn't realize each others REAL names until we actually met in person. 

The courtship was very brief as she had a SEVERE drinking and maybe even drug problem she was in her late 20's, I was in my late thirties and this lifestyle so to speak didn't fit me at all. Our first date was me meeting her at her house where she was living after her estranged husband moved out. This was on Kuss Road.

Being that I live in Manitowoc County and have for a LONG time when this case started in 2005 I can tell you that most people including myself felt Avery was guilty story over. Many of us also thought something was just off about this whole case on how quickly this happened and how lock stock and barrel they had Avery. It was just too convenient with the court case and all.....that's all I can really say about that. We had our doubts but it just sort of went away.

So now MAM happens! Kuss Road eventually came to light when all of us starting sorting through the CASO and MCSO files and realized without any doubt at all SOMETHING went down there. 

Most recently I saw post where there is a fucking blanket under a tree covering something right across the street from where I met this woman for the first time. 

I posted about this in a very obscure fashion a couple years ago that the person I met had the same last name as a DCI agent. Did some digging and her ex husband and this DCI agent might actually be brothers. For sure related. The ex husband as well as this woman I met both had Military Police background and he to this day is still practicing security. They have both went on to marry others, he married a Manitowoc Police officer and she a Fire and safety expert! WTF!!!!

This couple and TH were all about the same age and I can attest most likely the same type of lifestyle. Could they have met at some point and some photography was setup? TH was clearly able to carry on with married men without issue so was she perhaps into a scene that was hidden from us for a reason? Did she maybe have an affair (this couples divorce started in mid 2006 from what I can remember. So during this affair and later murder investigation ultimately tear them apart? I know how fucked up she was with the drinking and so forth.....I just don't know....! Scary as it is I might have briefly dated a murderer!

What if TH and JKS (I will not disclose any more than initials) had an affair and she (BAS) got jealous and maybe had TH come over for some more porn photos? things heated up and in the heat of the moment a tire iron to the head and the rest is history! Could her husband have reached out to his DCI agent family member as to what to do? They have a dead woman across the street shallow grave maybe. I never believed the bones were hers anyway so maybe she never was burned and this is just a rouse to keep us off track? Did they recover a body and quietly gave to the Halbachs for a private burial?

Today I am on the GZ blog site and ran across my Reddit post referenced there (didn't even know it was there) and I see this photo of an email taken off TH's computer (an email from about a month before TH disappeared):



That would be her estranged husband's middle name (Ken)! Sound familiar? I don't think this habit is all that uncommon at all. We did it and it appears if my hunch is right so did they!

I just don't know anymore......I can't get on the BoD ST thing. With how small this area actually is and people pretty much knowing everyone its entirely possible that RH's involvement is ONLY as a friend to maybe this couple as well as the couples family member!

Sorry for the long repetitive post but I just can't shake this.....

More oddities to consider.....

HE is a big cowboyish kind of guy now. I didn't get that from the timeframe in the 2005 era.....Didn't TH dress as a Cowgirl? He married a Manitowoc City Police officer. OR she became one after the fact not 100% sure.

SHE married a Fire EXPERT! WTF??!!!

NEITHER of them have much of a social profile at ALL and have 100% disassociated themselves from the DCI agents last name.....far as I am concerned this might be the most damning thing there is!

Am I crazy to think this way?



JKS = Joshua Kenneth Sasse (image above)
BAS = Brenda Ann Sasse



[–]whiteycnbr

The email leads me to believe they had a thing, repeated 'i miss you'.

Was she doing porno shoots for them? It links her to Kuss Rd.

[–]localtruther[S]

Careful....it might lead her to Kuss rd. Even if this email isnt from the right person....the way things always work for me is I notice shit like this all the time. This email indicates TH most CERTAINLY had a second darker life. We saw almost nothing from her computer and phone. Maybe the real correspondence hasn't been seen, but is known.

[–]rickardsvil

I went back and double checked the audiobook. This email is used in the second chapter of John Ferak's Wrecking Crew. He almost definitely tried to identify the author of this email. Maybe you could reach out to him. He's on Twitter.

[–]idunno_why 


"Dedering talked to Kenneth on the phone on 10/12. Kenneth knew Teresa since High School. They were close in college. He lived with her for 6 months after the Peace Corps in February 2005. Teresa never mentioned an abusive relationship to him. He said they were very close but not romantically involved. He met RYAN HILLEGAS 3 or 4 times and thought he was 'fine'. He said Ryan was one of her earliest boyfriends. Kenneth said Teresa never said anything negative about Ryan. Kenneth didn’t know about Teresa’s key or if she had a remote to open the doors. He doesn’t recall any damage to the RAV4."

Link to source:

https://m.facebook.com/notes/steven-avery-project/calumet-county-sheriffs-department-2017-2018-follow-up-investigation-regarding-t/662758690749760/

I believe he was also on the witness list for the trial.

[–]defmagic

HEADER: https://imgur.com/ZBJbKcW

EMAIL: https://imgur.com/KjhM0qn

It appears there were 3 pages out of order. The bottom of the page BEFORE that email lists "KENNETH HOWEN".

[–]WhoooIsReading 

Kenneth didn’t know about Teresa’s key or if she had a remote to open the doors. He doesn’t recall any damage to the RAV4.

So the award winning investigators waited until 2017 to ask a friend about Ryan's bogus claim of damage to the RAV4?

[–]defmagic[S] 

AFTER MaM part 1....

[–]WhoooIsReading 

That's one thing MAM didn't leave out.

Too bad it took 12 years for LE to ask one of the many questions they failed to ask in 2005.

Now Ken Kratz can add this fact to his book....

[–]kookaburrakook 

Do you know where they lived in that 6 months ?

[–]idunno_why 

In the same house she lived in when she disappeared. He would have been living there until about July 2005 if he moved in after leaving the peace corps in February and stayed for 6 months.



[–]kent3334

Question. Did the guy that told LE a girl (he believed was TH) came to his door looking for help, live on Kuss Rd.?

[–]localtruther[S]

Right across the street (see image above)!

On 11/5/2005, a resident named Leo Richmond, who lives at 4201 Kuss Road, called in a tip to CASO about Teresa Halbach knocking on his door the night before (11:30 PM on Friday, 11/4). Leo said that Teresa was looking for a home in his area. Wiegert dismissed the tip and said he would call back later; however, there isn't a follow-up report in the CASO file.

Directly across the street from Leo's home at 4201 Kuss Road, and off the road a bit, is 4130 Kuss Road. At the time of Teresa's disappearance, the home was owned and occupied by a young couple, Joshua and Brenda Sasse. One of the DCI investigators on the case (DCI Appleton field office), Michael C Sasse (CASO page 518), is a close relative to Joshua Sasse.

[–]localtruther[S]

Hundred thousand reasons! Seriously when I saw that email and the name signed....I was like fuck....what if I AM the missing piece? Like I stated above...at my age shit like happens and only with past experience NOT taken and you would have been the winner, do you realize how seemingly innocent unrelated life experience just happens!

[–]axollot

Whole point of the award is to have people consider connections and motivation to explain em.

Yours might be the one. It may not...but it has a truth to it hard to shake.

You'll never know for certain till you unravel that thread!

[–]Tris-Von-Q

I don't think you are crazy at all. With how little we actually know about Theresa's private life--anything is possible. And I too can't get on board with BoD and ST as the perps wagon either. I think they were involved in sending SA away for good out of jealousy but not Theresa's murder. I'm just not feeling it.

This however is highly suspect. I hope you are able to work with it more. There's got to be more out there with this lead.

Have you gone to KZ?

[–]localtruther[S]

Who is KZ? 🀣 kidding. No I have not

[–]Tris-Von-Q

Unfortunately I wouldn't even know how to advise you to move forward on this hunch. I wouldn't know where to start digging. Just be careful when digging in gardens of the county in which you live. SA's tale is a warning--was always meant to be a warning--to any local dissenters.

[–]localtruther[S]

You are correct! Point taken.

[–]Tris-Von-Q

To be honest, I find that email unsettling. The casual discussion of a gift of porn? It's just...weird to me.

WTF was this chick into?

[–]rickardsvil

Contacting KZ was the first thing that came to my mind as well. This could be nothing, but it also could be the one thing that finally brings some light to what happened to TH. Best of luck to you.

[–]SBRH33

From what I know now this post is important.

[–]PetrichorGirl

This Possy assignment when you were asked to relieve someone and guard an intersection near Avery’s... are you saying that was on/around Nov 7th 2005?

[–]localtruther[S]

That's what I am saying

[–]PetrichorGirl

Thanks. So that was after TH’s car had been found at Avery’s and there were cops everywhere. Was it MTSO instructing you?

[–]localtruther[S]

Dont know....all I knew is another member called me to relieve him....far as I know he made that call.

[–]reader_wny

I remember your post, glad you add this information. I think TH sent nude pictures of herself to him, to me it sounds like they were involved sexually. Her sending him messages on this beeper/pager, he misses her, she takes good care of him, definitely sounds like they were involved. The fact she shut her phone off about the time she came to Kuss Rd turnoff. This could explain the H family's odd behavior. I think you may have the 100k solution. Excellent post! Were there goodies in the form of "Pot Brownies"?

[–]MnAtty

I've always felt Teresa's family was being manipulated, based on some fear they had about her reputation. There was just too much touting of what a "good girl" she was. Coached volleyball. Um, who cares?

So it has always been the prosecution's over-emphasis on Teresa's reputation, that has concerned me. It's as though the prosecutors are heralding their role as her protectors. "We'll defend your daughter against the terrible rumors." There's almost a veiled threat of how ugly it could get without their protection.

FURTHER COMMENT: To make the point more clear, I've wondered why there was no celebration of who Teresa was as an artist. I've read references to how gifted she was as a photographer. So where is the memorial exhibit? It's almost as though this was a topic of shame, rather than pride.

Instead, they emphasized a minor activity, volunteering a few afternoons a week, during volleyball season. It feels like they focused on it because it was a generally wholesome topic. But it seems almost impersonal. It had little to do with her actual life.

[–]s_wardy_s[S]

You're right about the photography. She graduated with honours as top of the class, and we've never seen a frigging picture she took other than a few average shots of cars for AutoTrader that quite frankly, anyone could have taken. Where is the celebration of her art?

[–]PetrichorGirl 

The Kuss Rd resident who rang police said she knocked on his door on 11/4. That’s after she was officially reported missing by her mother on 11/3. If it was TH looking for a party, I wonder what she had been doing for 4 days since 10/31?


There were multiple sightings of Teresa after 10/31/05 (sightings 11/1/05-11/8/05):
  1. Anna Knutsen of Valders says she saw Teresa taking pictures of cows on Madson Road, “literally kitty corner” to Trinity Lutheran Church at 11303 Wehausen Rd, Manitowoc, on the morning of November 1st, around 8:35 a.m.
  2. Barbara Linsmeyer says she saw Teresa in a white van with two men on the side of the road by the turnaround on highway 147 (around 23-minute mark in MTSO dispatch audio).
  3. Gary Ebert saw Teresa sitting next to a man, who was about 15 years older than her, on the ferry from Washington Island at 5 p.m. on November 4th (they didn't look like a likely couple to him, and she looked almost scared and appeared to be falling to sleep (around 29-minute mark in CASO dispatch audio).
  4. Leo Richmond of Kuss Road says Teresa knocked on his door at midnight on November 4th looking for a home in his area.
  5. A tip called in on November 7th from a teacher at Hilbert High School, who was told by a student that, when the McGlone family was distributing missing persons posters at a gas station in Sheboygan yesterday, November 6th, a person standing in line there said they had seen Teresa in Sheboygan the day before, November 5th.
  6. Two sightings of Teresa in Sheboygan with a black man on around midnight November 5-6th (one sighting in Walmart, another sighting in a white van at Taco Bell).
  7. Bill Crummel left a message on the police department's voicemail on November 8th saying he saw Teresa in a bar/restaurant (with a tree on its sign) on Lakeshore Drive and County Road Xx in Cleveland.



Two people from Sheboygan call CASO dispatch. The first caller at 6:30 p.m. on 11/5 says she saw Teresa with a black man following her into Sheboygan Walmart. The second caller at midnight says he saw Teresa at a Sheboygan Taco Bell, in a white van, with a black man next to her in the van.
Another potential witness, Barbara Linsmeyer, came forward, referencing a white van (at 16:27 and around 23-minute mark in MTSO dispatch audio). Barbara claims that she too physically witnessed Teresa. She stated that she saw Teresa on the shoulder side of the road, at the turnaround on highway 147, inside a white van/SUV with the hazard lights on. She said she could see her through the driver's side door, and was almost certain it was her. She also claims that Teresa was not alone and that there were two other occupants inside the vehicle with her (two men). Barbara contacted police and reported this information, but when she called she had only spoken with dispatch. She seemed sincere and concerned for this woman's safety, whoever it was, whether it was Teresa or not. Police never contacted her back at all.

Ryan may have seen Teresa on and after October 31st because he had her day planner page that should have been in her RAV4 (he turned it over to detectives on November 3rd).



Then there's the fact that everyone seemed to have advanced knowledge of her death (Mike Halbach deleted some of Teresa's voicemail messages on November 2nd, before she was reported missing, and her missing persons poster was created on November 2nd). The Halbach family appointed Mike Halbach to be spokesperson. Therefore, anything he says is coming from the family. If not, they would categorically deny he speak for them. Thus, Mike is the Halbach family. They are smart and not saying anything. Why? Because they are in this deeper than people realize.


CASO Investigative Report, Page 518
TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Interview of Bobby Dassey
DATE OF ACTIVITY: 02/27/06
REPORTING OFFICER: Inv. John Dedering

On Monday, 02/27/06 at 1126 hrs., various members of the WISCONSIN DEPT. OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION and the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. did meet at MISHICOT FIRE DEPT. The purpose of our meeting was to view a videotaped interview done by Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER and Inv. MARK WIEGERT on a subject named BRENDAN R. DASSEY on 02/27/06. According to information I had obtained from WIEGERT, DASSEY had made some statements with regard to STEVEN AVERY's disposal of TERESA HALBACH, as well as who was responsible for her death. While waiting for other members of the interview team to arrive, I did assist Inv. BALDWN with an interview of BARBARA JANDA. For details of this, please see the report of Inv. BALDWIN.

Special Agent MICHAEL SASSE and I did locate BOBBY DASSEY at the residence of DUANE OSMUNSON, 5017 Nuclear Rd. in the Mishicot area at 1955 hrs. SASSE and I asked BOBBY DASSEY if he had some time to speak with us and he indicated that he did. We then went out to the county vehicle, which I was operating, and BOBBY DASSEY did have a seat in the front passenger side and Special Agent SASSE climbed into the rear passenger side. Prior to asking DASSEY any questions, he was advised that he was not under arrest, did not have to answer questions if he chose not to and was free to leave at anytime he so wished. I asked him to open the passenger front door of the vehicle in order to demonstrate to him that he was perfectly free to leave. He understood this and agreed to answer questions.

We went over his activities to the best of his recollection on Monday, 10/31/05. He stated that he arrived home from work at approximately 0630 hrs (It should be noted that DASSEY was employed at FISHER HAMILTON in Two Rivers at this time) and went to bed. He stated that he got up between 1400 and 1430 hrs., got into the shower and went bow hunting. He stated he arrived home somewhere approximately 1730 hrs. and that it was dark out already. He stated he did not recall who was home when he arrived, but thought perhaps BRENDAN was. He stated that when he arrived home, he went straight to bed and did not eat. He stated he got up at approximately 2100 hrs., got ready for work and once again did not eat. He stated that to the best of his recollection, BLAINE was home and possibly BRENDAN as well. He stated that his other brother BRYAN was not at home and was possibly at his girlfriend's residence.

BOBBY indicated that when he was leaving for work at approximately 2130 hrs., he noticed that STEVEN was having a bonfire. He estimated that the flames were five to six feet in height. He stated that it was a good-sized fire and that STEVEN has had fires there in the past. He stated that he could not say for sure that STEVEN was tending to the fire and he was further unsure whether BRENDAN was there or not. He stated that the view from his residence to the fire pit is somewhat blocked by the garage of STEVEN AVERY. He stated that he worked from 2200 hrs. until 0600 hrs. the following day and when he arrived home, he noticed nothing unusual and that the fire was out.

I asked BOBBY if his brother, BRENDAN, was one to lie about things and he stated that BRENDAN would possibly lie about little things. I asked him if BRENDAN would lie about anything concerning the HALBACH murder investigation, and he stated that he would not lie about this. I asked BOBBY if he has noticed any changes in BRENDAN and his response was "not really." When I asked him if BRENDAN has been depressed recently, he stated that he was a little depressed. BOBBY indicated that BRENDAN has not discussed anything regarding what he may have seen in the fire pit on 10/31/05 or what STEVEN may have told BRENDAN. BOBBY indicated that his brother, BRENDAN, likes to play basketball games and racing games on their Playstation 2. He states that he does not play with others, but prefers to compete by himself on the machine.

I asked BOBBY if he could recall once again what he saw regarding TERESA HALBACH and her vehicle. He stated that while he was preparing to go bow hunting on 10/31/05, he observed TERESA's vehicle pull in and he observed TERESA get out and take one or two photos of the maroon van, which his mother had for sale. BOBBY said that this was prior to him getting into the shower. He stated that when he got out of the shower (approximately ten minutes later) he brought his bow out to the vehicle and TERESA's vehicle was still there but he did not see her. He stated that she was wearing a black coat, black trousers and he cannot recall what color her top was. DASSEY drew me a diagram indicating that the HALBACH vehicle was pointed in a westerly direction almost directly across from the westernmost portion of the BARBARA JANDA circular driveway. BOBBY stated that the vehicle was gone when he got back from hunting.

I asked BOBBY about the position of the Suzuki Samurai. BOBBY thought that to his best recollection, the Suzuki was in the garage for a while, and he was unsure when STEVEN moved it out of the garage. He stated that he was never in the garage when the Suzuki was parked in the garage and he stated that he could no longer independently recall where the Suzuki was positioned when he left for hunting.

I asked BOBBY DASSEY who his brother, BRENDAN, might confide in and he indicated the only person he could think of was BRENDAN's friend, TRAVIS FABIAN, whose father, ROBERT FABIAN, is a friend of EARL AVERY.

I asked BOBBY if he could recall the burn barrel in front of STEVEN's residence burning when he left for hunting, and he stated he could not independently recall this. Agent SASSE asked BOBBY DASSEY if he could ever recall STEVEN AVERY shooting a .22 at the burn barrel or anything else in the immediate vicinity of STEVEN AVERY's residence. BOBBY indicated he could not recall anything like this except for one occasion. SASSE asked DASSEY if he could recall STEVEN AVERY in possession of a buck knife or a leatherman and BOBBY DASSEY could not recall that.

BOBBY DASSEY indicated that he doesn't recall BRENDAN or STEVEN acting any differently after the October 31st. incident. He further indicated he could not recall any sort of injury to STEVEN's arms or hands on October 31st.

Investigation continues.

A poster wrote the following on the MaM subreddit two years ago:
Most people that get murdered know their killers. It doesn't have to be dramatic to the everyday onlooker or to someone on the outside looking in -- but in the killer's mind, something just sets them off. It could be the smallest of things, the straw that breaks the camel's back, or something in and of itself, that just quickly escalates into a furious rage.

I am really, really bothered by the Halloween party timeline. No one is really talking much about it -- but what happened in the few days prior to her disappearance (i.e. the Halloween party or parties she attended and who saw her, etc.) is not being discussed.

I know how passions and jealousies flare up between ex-bfs and ex-gfs around Halloween when you're in your 20's, because you usually go with a date and/or dress up.

I can see someone who's been pushed to the edge of powerlessness losing their sense of identity, and much more importantly, losing their grasp on the value of the life behind the face of someone he or she is obsessed with. That face, for that fleeting moment of rage, becomes a mask that can be wiped away. When reality sets back in, blood is on their hands.
The last time RyanH ever saw Teresa alive:

At Avery's trial, in 2007, RyanH testified that he remembered Teresa was sitting at her computer when they last talked, but he couldn't say whether it was morning, afternoon, or night. RyanH testified that his last conversation with Teresa was "about the cowgirl outfit she planned to wear on Halloween night."

A year earlier, in 2006, RyanH told a reporter from Milwaukee Magazine that the last time he saw Teresa she was dressed as a cowgirl.

Were there Halloween parties on both 10/29 and 10/31? Did Aubrey Wygralak see Teresa on 10/31 at a Halloween party, where she was dressed as a cowgirl, or was it 10/29, or was it both? Did the Herald Times Reporter misreport the day as 10/21 and it actually was 10/31 when Aubrey last saw Teresa, dressed as a cowgirl for Halloween?
"Wygralak last saw her at a Halloween party Oct. 21, which Halbach attended dressed as a cowgirl, and she planned to see her Saturday when the two were to throw a surprise party for two friends in Green Bay. Instead, Wygralak spent the day helping friends search for some sign of Halbach. [Herald News Reporter, November 9, 2005] 





Newsweek reported in March 2016:
Zellner says there are many glaring examples of investigators failing to look past Avery at other suspects. For example, two days before her murder, about 15 minutes before midnight, Halbach made two calls to a phone number that belonged to a man recently charged with sex crimes in Arizona, records show. "A well-trained investigator, they’d be all over that. And they would have gone and talked to [that man], and they would have interviewed these other people that she’s talking to right before her death," Zellner says. "She’s like prey being stalked, and that’s [the most likely type of] person who would have been after her."

If Ryan Hillegas did it, it seems the trigger probably was the very fact that Teresa was supposed to be going to a party, dressed as a cowgirl. Also, her roommate Scott mentioned she might have met some guy recently, and Scott surely shared this with Ryan.
Teresa Halbach was at a private home in Green Bay for a family portrait at 4 PM on Saturday, 10/29/2005, per CASO dispatch call on 11/9.
Teresa was in her studio on 10/29, per Tom Pearce. Teresa may have gone to her studio in Green Bay before or after this photo shoot.



In Mike Halbach's testimony (page 188) he says Teresa helped him on his first wedding video job on 10/29.

MikeH said the 10/29 wedding was a friend's wedding.

MikeH testified that the wedding was in the "early evening" of  10/29, and that Teresa would have attended the Halloween party "later on in the night."

Did Teresa Halbach bump into Chris McKenna at the 10/29 wedding (the teacher and girls track coach who moved from Wisconsin to Arizona around 2008, and who currently is incarcerated in Arizona for having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old student).

Did Teresa (Hilbert High School class of 1998) bump into ChrisM (Hilbert High School class of 1996) at the 10/29 wedding, and did this result in her late night calls to him on 10/29?

There was a rumor about a rumble over Teresa at a Halloween party, which Aubrey Wyralak attended (she is Teresa's friend and the sister-in-law of Alex Quadrini, who called Teresa at 12:31 PM on 11/1 and left a message "regarding a  family picture").

The rumor started with a comment from Linda at Daniel Luke's website, overthrow.us, which he has since taken down, but I saved part of the comment before the website went offline:
Linda September 28, 2016 7:38 am 
I would like to point out that Teresa would be going to this Halloween party with a new guy friend Bradley and MH is the one who made a point to tell this to RH and believe he knew this would make RH furious. It made RH obsessed with it before he even got there. It was said that Bradley was confronted by RH with aggression and RH called him out and wanted to fight him. Actually his anger was really aimed toward Teresa as though Teresa was cheating on him. This of course wouldn’t be true, but not in his head in wouldn’t be. I think RH was so jealous and in a rage to the point of out of control.
It appears from the CASO report that Brad Czech was not at the 10/29 wedding: in his interview with law enforcement on 11/4, he said that the last time he saw Teresa was two weeks earlier, when they met for lunch in Green Bay (pages 45-47 of CASO report).

RyanS started calling Teresa in August 2005, maybe to confirm details of a family wedding for Teresa to photograph and for Mike to videotape on 10/29 (not RyanS's wedding -- he got married in January 2001 -- but another family member -- Ryan's wife was from Sheybogan, where Teresa may have spent the morning and early afternoon of 10/31).

The calls between RyanS and Teresa were:

8/17 Teresa calls RyanS (15:06)
8/31 Teresa calls RyanS (:35)
9/1 Teresa calls RyanS (:46)
10/7 RyanS called Teresa (:49)
10/7 Teresa returned RyanS's call (:21)
10/10 RyanS calls Teresa (:46)
10/10 Teresa returns RyanS's call (8:40)
10/25 Teresa calls RyanS (1:45)
10/27 Teresa calls RyanS (:40)

RyanS's family owns and runs a farm in Hilbert, just like the Halbach family.

One of TimH's law partners is TroyS, who is RyanS's brother.



RyanS (who Teresa talked to about 10 times in the three months leading up to the wedding) and ChrisM were in the same class at Hilbert High School (class of 1996). Tim Halbach also may have been in HHS class of 1996.

TimH was/is facebook friends with ChrisM's brother Matthew, who is two years older than ChrisM, RyanS and TimH.

Teresa and RyanH (class of 1998) went to Hilbert High School with ChrisM and RyanS, although ChrisM and RyanS (class of 1996) were two years ahead of them. Teresa, RyanH and ChrisM were student athletes.

RyanH and ChrisM also went to the same college (University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh) and attended a few of the same years.

So there are connections between the Halbach family and the families of ChrisM and RyanS, and there are connections between RyanH and ChrisM.

RyanS, ChrisM, and TimH (and others from HHS) very well could have been guests at the wedding on 10/29, the wedding of a friend that Teresa photographed and MikeH videotaped.

Around 9:30 PM on 10/29, Teresa called her brother Tim, maybe to ask him for ChrisM's number.

Teresa called ChrisM twice on 10/29, just before midnight, per the Cingular report entered into evidence.

Did something happen at the wedding or Halloween party on 10/29 that created tension between Teresa and RyanH?

Was RyanH at the wedding on 10/29 or did he hear about it from others?

Was RyanH at the Halloween party on 10/29 or did he hear about it from others?

The following are RyanH's phone calls on 10/29 (he was up late the night before, Friday 10/28, and was making calls into the early morning hours of Saturday 10/29):

10/29 1:53 AM, Appleton, 2199, duration 1-2 minutes
10/29 3:18 AM, Oshkosh, 0386, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 3:21 AM, Fond Du Lac, 4189, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 11:38 AM, Oshkosh, 0386, duration 1-2 minutes
10/29 11:42 AM, Appleton, 9125, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 11:47 AM, Incoming, 0386, duration 1-2 minutes
10/29 12:07 PM, Appleton, 2199, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 12:08 PM, Stevens Pt, 6760, duration 11-12 minutes
10/29 1:32 PM, Appleton, 2199, duration 4-5 minutes
10/29 1:37 PM, Appleton, Sister or Brother-in-law, duration 4-5 minutes
10/29 2:39 PM, Incoming, ScottB, duration 6-7 minutes
10/29 2:54 PM, Incoming, 2632, duration 4-5 minutes
10/29 4:54 PM, Oshkosh, 0386, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 4:55 PM, Oshkosh, 0386, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 4:56 PM, Incoming, 0386, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 5:12 PM, Incoming, 2199, duration 2-3 minutes
10/29 6:44 PM, Appleton, 2199, duration 1-2 minutes
10/29 8:10 PM, Appleton, 2199, duation 2-3 minutes
10/29 8:24 PM, Appleton, 2199, duration less than 1 minute
10/29 8:25 PM, Incoming, 2199, duration 1-2 minutes
10/29 11:48 PM, Appleton, Sister or Brother-in-law, duration 1-2 minutes

The next day, the last day RyanH claims to have seen Teresa, he had very little phone activity:

10/30 1:26 PM, ScottB, duration less than 1 minute
10/30 1:35 PM, Incoming, ScottB, duration 1-2 minutes
10/30 3:30 PM, Kaukauna, 6810, duration less than 1 minute

Teresa's roommate and RyanH's good friend, Scott Bloedorn (Scott also went to HHS, class of 1998, where he too was a student athlete), told Wiegert that the "last time he talked to Teresa was around 2 PM on Sunday 10/30."

The 911 call placed by Karen Halbach at 2:52 PM on November 3, 2005, was requested in March 2018 by FOIA. Click here for the audio and transcript. Karen told the dispatcher that Teresa's roommate Scott Bloedorn saw Teresa at home on Monday, October 31, 2005. Therefore, either Scott lied or Wiegert's report was falsified.

Did RyanH find out that Teresa had hooked up with ChrisM over the weekend (Teresa called ChrisM twice just before midnight on 10/29)?

Could ChrisM be the "new guy" that Teresa met over the weekend, a possibility that ScottB mentioned to Wiegert?
I asked SCOTT if TERESA had a boyfriend to which SCOTT stated she did not. SCOTT has lived with TERESA for approximately eight or nine months. He did state to me he does not remember TERESA ever being gone overright; and her not being there since Monday, is very out of character for her. He also stated he noticed on Tuesday TERESA's truck was also not anywhere to be found at the house. I asked SCOTT what he thinks might have happened to which SCOTT states he really does not know, he just knows that this is out of character. He was thinking that maybe she had met a guy when she was out over the weekend; however, she did not mention that when he last spoke with her. SCOTT did tell me that he was aware that on Saturday night, TERESA had been at a Halloween party in Green Bay. He also stated TERESA hangs out in Green Bay a lot and has a lot of friends from Green Bay.
Teresa discussed the 10/29 Halloween party with ScottB sometime prior to 2 PM on 10/30, per the CASO report.
SCOTT states he had talked to TERESA last on Sunday afternoon, 10/30/05, at about 2:00 p.m. I asked him what they had talked about, to which SCOTT stated they talked about the Halloween parties they had both attended over the weekend. I asked SCOTT if she had talked about what she was going to be doing on Halloween, the 31st, to which SCOTT stated she did not mention anything to him. SCOTT states they are just roommates and they do not check in with each other and only talk if they happen to meet each other in the house. He states they basically both live their own lives out of that house.
What part of his conversation with Teresa about "parties over the weekend" did ScottB share with RyanH?

Friday, March 9, 2018

The Last Time Ryan Hillegas Saw Teresa Halbach, She Was Dressed as a Cowgirl for Halloween



The video linked here and in the image above is a report by Action 2 News from November 4, 2005.

At the 3:05 mark in the video, Teresa Halbach's roommate and Ryan Hillegas' good friend, Scott Bloedorn, is interviewed.

CASO investigator Mark Wiegert reported on November 3rd that Scott told them "he was aware that on Saturday night Teresa had been at a Halloween party in Green Bay," which they talked about on Sunday (CASO pages 6-7).
Scott states he had talked to Teresa last on Sunday afternoon, 10/30/05, at about 2:00 p.m. I asked him what they had talked about to which Scott stated they talked about the Halloween parties they had both attended over the weekend. I asked Scott if she had talked about what she was going to be doing on Halloween, the 31", to which Scott stated she did not mention anything to him. Scott states they are just roommates and they do not check in with each other and only talk if they happen to meet each other in the house. He states they basically both live their own lives out of that house. When asked what may have happened to Teresa, Scott said "maybe she had met a guy when she was out over the weekend. Scott did tell me that he was aware that on Saturday night, Teresa had been at a Halloween party in Green Bay. He also stated Teresa hangs out in Green Bay a lot and has a lot of friends from Green Bay.
Mike Halbach, Teresa's brother, confirmed during his testimony at Steven Avery's trial in February 2007 that Teresa went to a Halloween party on Saturday night, October 29th:
Q. Okay. The gathering at -- was at grandpa's house on Sunday, October 30?s

A. That's correct.

Q. For his -- for his birthday?

A. Correct.

Q. And then, I think -- Were there, if you know, did she -- had she had plans to go to a Halloween party the Saturday night right before that?

A. I believe so. Earlier in the evening she was helping me with a wedding, shooting a wedding video. After that I think she would have went to a Halloween party. I believe that's correct.

Q. Okay. Saturday night, October 29?

A. Right. Yeah, it would have been later on in the night.
In March 2006, almost one year before he testified at Avery's trial, Ryan Hillegas told Milwaukee Magazine that Teresa was dressed as a cowgirl the last time her saw her (the "friend's house" was Scott's house, which was also Teresa's house):
"On the Sunday before she disappeared, Hillegas ran into Teresa at a friend’s house. Halbach told him she planned to join her family at a bar in Appleton for a Halloween party. She was dressed as a cowgirl."
In February 2007, during Ryan's testimony at Avery's trial, Buting asked Ryan about seeing Teresa on Saturday or Sunday.

Ryan changed his story when he testified in February 2007: he said Teresa "mentioned she had a cowgirl hat and she was going to dress up like a cowgirl."

Ryan Hillegas testified at Avery's trial that he stopped by Teresa's home on Sunday, October 30th, to drop off something for Scott, at which time he spoke to Teresa while she was using her computer, but he testified that he didn't remember what time it was or if it was day-time or night-time (he was not asked if Scott was home or not, and Scott did not testify).
Q. Now, the night before, Saturday night, was sort of Halloween weekend; there would be parties, bar parties, house parties, whatever. Did you chit chat at all, talk about that?

A. On Sunday we just talked and she had mentioned that she had a cowgirl hat and she was going to dress up like a cowgirl. And that was pretty much the extent of it.

Q. This was, I’m sorry, Saturday or Sunday?

A. Sunday.

Q. Okay. Did she talk about having gone out the night before, Saturday night at all?

A. No.

Q. Do you know from any other information whether she did go Saturday night?

A. I don’t know.

Q. Or Sunday night?

A. I don’t know that either.


On Sunday afternoon Teresa was going to her grandfather's to celebrate his birthday with her family. Why would she be "dressed as a cowgirl" for his party? 

CASO investigators reported on November 3rd that Scott told them the last time he saw Teresa was at 2 PM on Sunday, October 30th (CASO page 6).

This would mean that Teresa left for her grandfather's birthday party at 2 PM, while Scott was still home (and he was home until at least 2 PM). This was after Ryan called Scott's cell phone at 1:25 PM (call duration less than one minute) and after Scott returned Ryan's call at 1:36 PM (call duration one to two minutes).

Ryan's testimony suggests that Scott was not home when he stopped by and saw Teresa for the last time.

Scott was home until at least 2 PM, when Teresa left.


Therefore, Ryan did not stop before 2 PM on October 30th.

Teresa didn't return home until around 4:30 PM on October 30th.

Therefore, Ryan could not have stopped by and talked to Teresa between 2 and 4:30 PM on October 30th.
The Cingular report entered into evidence indicates on October 30th the first activity for Teresa's cell phone was at 4:41 PM, which was an incoming call. At 5:05 PM, she received another incoming call. The first time Teresa made a call was to check her voicemail at 5:27 PM. According to the Cingular report, at 5:40 PM she made at outgoing call; however, this call is not listed on the report generated by AT&T in 2017.

These three or four calls were the only activity for Teresa's cell phone on October 30th, and the Cingular report indicates that these calls were serviced by Teresa's home tower.

Therefore, if the Cingular report is correct, and if the report was not altered before being entered into evidence, Teresa returned home from her grandfather's party no later than 4:41 PM on Sunday, October 30th.
Teresa's mother, Karen Halbach, testified at Brendan Dassey's trial (day 1, page 108) that on Sunday, October 30th, Teresa came over at 7 PM and left sometime after 10 PM (after returning from the birthday party, and before Teresa came over around 7 PM, the Halbach family milked cows on their diary farm, about 1/4 mile from Teresa's home).
Q. Could you tell the jury what you remember about Sunday, the 30th of October?

A. Um, my dad's birthday is October 31, Halloween, so the day before, my whole family got together at his house and we just celebrated his birthday during the day.

Q. Was Teresa in attendance at that party?

A. Yes, she was.

Q. Were the rest of, uh, the siblings there as well?

A. Yes, they were.

Q. What happened that night if you recall?

A. That night, um, we milked cows, and then Teresa came home from -- about seven, because Extreme Makeover Home Edition was coming on and she wanted to watch it with the girls.

Q. She was at your house?

A. Right. At our house.

Q. All right. Do you know about what time Teresa left your home on the 30th?

A. I would say it was after ten.

Karen testified at Avery's trial (trial testimony, day 13, page 106) that "it became a tradition" for Teresa to come over on Sunday nights to watch TV with her sisters:
"It kind of became a tradition, Teresa would come over Sunday after -- Sunday night, and three of her favorite TV shows were on that night, and they (she and her two sisters) would watch it together and laugh and have a good time."
The defense didn't follow up at Avery's trial with the question, "Did Teresa come by on the Sunday night, October 30th, to watch TV with her sisters."
Karen Halbach testified at Dassey's trial that Teresa was at her parents' home from 7 to 10 PM on October 30th.

This means the only time period on October 30th for Ryan to have seen Teresa at her home, dressed as a cowgirl, was between 4:30 and 7 PM.
On Sunday, October 30, 2005:
  1. Around 2 PM, Teresa left home to attend her grandfather's birthday party at his home (if the report about Scott last seeing Teresa at 2 PM is accurate and not falsified). 
  2. Around 4:30 PM, Teresa returned home from the party (if the Cingular report is accurate and not falsified).
  3. By 7 PM, Teresa went next door to her parents' home and watched TV with her sisters.
  4. Sometime after 10 PM, Teresa returned home.
  5. At 10:29 PM, Teresa printed her day planner for the week beginning October 31st. We know that Teresa was at home at 10:29 PM on October 30th because this is the timestamp on the page that she printed from her day planner.
Ryan is the only person to mention Teresa wearing a cowgirl costume on October 30th.

Teresa did not put on her Halloween costume to go to her grandfather's birthday party at 2 PM. Nor did she come home at 4:30 PM and dress up like a cowgirl before going to her parents' house to watch TV with her sisters at 7 PM. Nor did she come after 10 PM, print her day planner at 10:29 PM, dress up as a cowgirl, and then head out to party in Appleton at 11 PM, the day before Halloween and the day before she was supposed to work from 9 AM to 2 PM for Autotrader.

Teresa did not dress up as a cowgirl on Sunday, October 30th. 

Teresa was planning to meet friends in Appleton to party for Halloween, dressed as a cowgirl, on Monday, October 31st.

At the 42-minute mark in episode 5 of Making A Murderer, Ryan testifies that he ran into Teresa at her house, but doesn't remember if it was day or night.

Ryan stated that he saw Teresa the day before she disappeared yet he cannot give any specific details about the visit. He knew nothing of a major Halbach family gathering planned for that afternoon, nor did he provide an alibi for the time period from October 30th through November 3rd.

Ryan can't provide any details because he didn't see Teresa on Sunday, October 29th. He saw Teresa at her home sometime between 4 and 7 PM on Monday, October 31st, as she was completing her Autotrader paperwork and preparing to go to Appleton, first to FedEx her package to Autotrader, and then to meet friends at a bar to party for Halloween.

Around 4 PM on Halloween, Monday, October 31st, Teresa returned home after completing her Autotrader assignments. 

As she was doing her business paperwork and preparing to leave for Appleton, Ryan stopped by.

Ryan told Milwaukee Magazine in March 2006 that Teresa was dressed as a cowgirl for Halloween the last time her saw her.

Tom Pearce said in his affidavit dated April 21, 2017 that Teresa told him on Saturday, October 29th, that she planned to go to a party on Halloween, October 31st (Tom said in his testimony at Avery's trial in 2007 that he last saw Teresa at their studio in Green Bay on October 29th):
"Ms. Halbach told me on October 29 that she intended to go out to a party on Halloween. I know that most of the time when Ms. Halbach went out to a party, she went to Green Bay or Appleton."
Teresa was planning to join friends in Appleton to party for Halloween, so she put on her cowgirl costume.

Teresa never made it to Appleton for Halloween on Monday, October 31st [see Teresa Halbach's Last Day].

Ryan was the last person to see Teresa alive on Monday, October 31st.

Ryan told Milwaukee Magazine in March 2006 that he called Teresa on Tuesday (November 1st) to ask her about the [Halloween] party, and her voicemail box was full [Scott Bloedorn told Wiegert on Thursday, November 3rd, that "he noticed on Tuesday (November 1st) Teresa's truck was also not anywhere to be found at the house"].



At 2:52 PM on November 3, 2005, Karen Halbach called the Calumet County Sheriff's Office and reported Teresa as missing and last seen at home on Monday (image above):
"Daughter has not been seen since Monday at home." 
UPDATE APRIL 2018: The 911 call placed by Karen Halbach at 2:52 PM on November 3, 2005, was requested in March 2018 by FOIA. Click here for the audio and transcript. Karen told the dispatcher that Teresa's roommate Scott Bloedorn saw Teresa at home on Monday, October 31, 2005; however, Wiegert's activity report for November 3rd says that the "last time Scott talked to Teresa was at 2 PM on Sunday." Therefore, either Scott lied or Wiegert's report was falsified.

Pagel told reporters on November 4th that "parents, friends, relatives, nobody has had any contact with her since the 31st:"
"It is out of character for her not to have contact with family or friends for this length of time," Pagel said. "This is behavior that is not normal for this young lady. It's suspicious. Parents, friends, relatives, nobody has had any contact with her since the 31st."
Action 2 News reported on November 4th that the last time her family or roommate saw her was Sunday afternoon (October 30th):
"The last time her family or her roommate saw her was Sunday afternoon." 
At Avery's trial, Karen Halbach was not asked if she saw Teresa after the birthday party on the afternoon of October 30th:
Q. Tell the jury about, um, your relationship with Teresa? And I'll -- How often would you talk to her?

A. Um, at least once a week. She'd come over a lot on the weekends to spend time with us and her two sisters. Um, she took pictures for us. She did our family picture, and she was always taking pictures of the girls and around the farm. She liked to take pictures a lot. And we'd spend a lot of time together. We'd go out, out to eat, or -- it seems like the kids were always over on a Sunday afternoon, and we'd talk, sit around the island in our kitchen and talk a lot. We did spend a lot of time together.

Q. Was Sundays a day that the family would typically get together?

A. Yeah. Yes.

Q. In fact, the Sunday before Teresa -- Teresa's death, a Sunday, the one day before her death on the 30th of October, do you recall all getting together for a birthday party that day?

A. Yes. It was my father's birthday on Halloween, but we got together that Sunday before and celebrated his birthday at his house.

Q. Okay. So Teresa was actually killed on your dad's birthday?

A. Yes.

Q. I think you told us, um, Mrs. Halbach, that Teresa lived close to you in -- in physical proximity. Who owned the property in which she lived?

A. My husband and I do.

[...]

Q. Your, um, daughter, Katie, who we've heard from, um, were you familiar with Katie's relationship with your daughter, Teresa?

A. Yes.

Q. Would you describe that? What -- what you noticed about that relationship?

A. Um, Teresa was very close to both of her sisters. Um, you know, they spent a lot of time laughing and picking on each other. Uh, it kind of became tradition, Teresa would come over Sunday after -- Sunday night, and three of her favorite TV shows were on that night, and they'd watch it together and laugh and have a good time. You know, she took them shopping.

Q. All right. When you heard that Katie knew about Teresa's clothing, when she knew that she owned a pair of Daisy Fuentes jeans, do you have any doubts that, uh, they were close enough that she'd know that?

A. Oh, yeah. Teresa, um -- The girls would go over to Teresa's house and they would try on her clothes, because if Teresa had jeans that wouldn't fit her, she'd give them to the girls. So I'm sure Katie knows she had them.

Q. All right. There's been at least some suggestion that on, perhaps, the 2nd or 3rd of November, that your daughter, Teresa, may still have been alive. May have been accessing her cell phone. After the 31st of October, Mrs. Halbach, um, did you ever hear your daughter, Teresa's voice again?

A. No, I did not.

Q. Is Teresa -- or was Teresa the kind of girl that would have taken off, or would have left, or would have, um, vanished without talking to you, or talking to her family?

A. No, she would not.
At Dassey's trial, Karen Halbach was asked about seeing Teresa after her grandfather's birthday party:
Q. Could you tell the jury what you remember about Sunday, the 30th of October?

A. Um, my dad's birthday is October 31, Halloween, so the day before, my whole family got together at his house and we just celebrated his birthday during the day.

Q. Was Teresa in attendance at that party?

A. Yes, she was.

Q. Were the rest of, uh, the siblings there as well?

A. Yes, they were.

Q. What happened that night if you recall?

A. That night, um, we milked cows, and then Teresa came home from -- about seven, because Extreme Makeover Home Edition was coming on and she wanted to watch it with the girls.

Q. She was at your house?

A. Right. At our house.

Q. All right. Do you know about what time Teresa left your home on the 30th?

A. I would say it was after ten.
At Dassey's trial, Teresa's sister Katie indicated that the last time she saw Teresa was at her grandfather's birthday party:
Q. Okay. Katie, on Sunday nights did your sister, Teresa, and you make a habit of watching some television shows together?

A. We did.

Q. Where would you guys usually watch those shows together?

A. Either at our house or hers.

Q. All right. Do you remember the day before she was killed, that is, on the 30th of October, if you and Teresa and your other sister spent that night together and watched those shows together?

A. Urn, I believe we were at my grandpa's house for his birthday.

Q. All right. You remember that birthday party that night?

A. Yeah.

Q. Or that day at least?

A. Yeah.

Q. And the same question that I asked of your mom, after the 30th of October, have you ever seen or heard from your sister, Teresa?

A. I did not.

Q. Last question for you. Urn, do you know what kind of soda that, uh, your sister, Teresa, used to drink? Did she have a brand of soda she liked?

A. Urn, she likes cherry sodas a lot.

Q. Do you know if she liked Wild Cherry Pepsi brand soda?
The following is a clip from NBC Dateline. It includes interviews from 2005 of Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas.
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/remembering-teresa-shell-be-in-my-heart-forever-611975235991


Teresa lied to her ex-bf. Teresa Dressed as a Cowgirl - The Halloween Party - Where was it? Who was there? 
By Bill_Shackelson, MakingaMurderer
December 27, 2015

"On the Sunday before she disappeared, Hillegas ran into Teresa at a friend’s house. Halbach told him she planned to join her family at a bar in Appleton for a Halloween party. She was dressed as a cowgirl."

Source: http://www.milwaukeemag.com/2006/05/01/blood-simple/

"Wygralak last saw her at a Halloween party Oct. 21, which Halbach attended dressed as a cowgirl, and she planned to see her Saturday when the two were to throw a surprise party for two friends in Green Bay. Instead, Wygralak spent the day helping friends search for some sign of Halbach." [I presume the date Oct. 21 is a typo by the newspaper.]

Source: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-31696.html Original: http://www.wisinfo.com/heraldtimes/news/archive/local_23315707.shtml

I understand her family could have been at this Halloween party (on Sunday along with her friend Aubrey Wygralak), but come on guys...single, pretty and dressed up as a cowgirl on Halloween? She ain't hanging out with her family, ya'll. And these dates are a little funky. Halloween party on Friday October 21st and then another Halloween party on Sunday October 30th with her family? That first date could be wrong. Let's say it is the same party -- then Teresa lied to Ryan. I'd put money on it that there was another guy there or she was bisexual or gay. And Ryan Hillegas felt burned or jealous.

Bill_Shackelson also wrote on reddit in December 2015:
Well, according to that older article, on Sunday, October 30th, the day before Halloween, the ex-boyfriend, Ryan, said he showed up at the house of his "friend" who lived with Teresa and saw her dressed up as a cowgirl...to go to a Halloween party. He didn't mention at all that she was dressed up to go to a Halloween party except the one mistaken slip to the magazine in 2006, telling them that she was dressed up as a cowgirl and on her way to a Halloween party. The story he stuck to consistently thereafter and in court was that she was at her computer and he had no recollection of what time of the day it might have been. Just doesn't sound right.

Who dresses up in her costume in the morning or afternoon, even? And who goes to Halloween parties with their family at 25 years of age? Something's not right here. And her ex-boyfriend doesn't remember what time of the day it was when he saw her dressed up? That never even came up in court -- "What was she wearing when you saw her?" The ex-boyfriend didn't remember what time of day it was when he last saw her, yet he told a reporter that she was dressed as a cowgirl? Do people wear their Halloween costumes for breakfast and wear it all day?

What I am saying is, if he wasn't invited to this Halloween party, he's gonna feel a little butt-hurt. And you remember when a girl you dated for five years is looking sexy in her cowgirl costume. 

Can't underestimate what Halloween means to dudes when they know the girl is dressed up all nice and fancy. Their imaginations start running wild -- in the wrong direction.

Trust me. The burned weiner is a powerful force. And if it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck, the thing works for Aflac and is a mf'g duck! The duck in this case being Ryan, who shows up to his "friend's" house where his ex-girlfriend of five years lives, as well. And the other duck being Teresa, who seems to be hiding something from him.








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