The footer of the document in the image above, which is from the Youth Educated in Safety (YES) website, most likely was "auto populated" at the time the document was created.
Default YES format:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/images/LAHNNA01.jpg
https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/htdocs/andylathrop.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/kellynolan.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/htdocs/documents/amandamaecoon.pdf
Question: Macro to Insert Footer with Date, Filename, Page x of y
In previous versions of Word I always created a simple macro to insert a footing into my documents.
It would add the date, the filename, and "page x of y" as the footing.
Very simple. Very easy to create. Worked without a hitch.
I am now trying to do that with Office 365 and encountering far more problems than seem reasonable.
So before I go any further, I thought I'd post to see if there was an easier way to do this? A template? A different footer style?
Answer:
A macro is usually overkill for this kind of task.
The best way to do it is to create the whole footer in a custom template. Then every document you base on that template will start out with the footer already in place (although the filename field won't automatically update when you save the document, so you'll have to update it manually, most easily by going to the Print screen and back to the document).
Hint: For the date, use a CREATEDATE field instead of a DATE field. In the template it will show the date of the template's creation. In documents based on the template, it will show the date when the document was created -- and, unlike the DATE field, it won't change if the document is later reopened.
[Source]
Teresa Halbach's mother called to report Teresa as "missing" at 2:52 PM on 11/3/05; however, the incident type was listed as "death" (see image above).
Mike Halbach testified that a man from YES contacted them "the day we reported Teresa missing, that Thursday" (11/3/05):
"Yeah, on the -- Well, the day we reported Teresa missing, that Thursday, we had got a call from a man named Jay Breyer who offered his services at Youth Educated in Safety, which is a missing persons organization. He offered to make copies and make up a missing persons poster. So we took him up on that offer that night, finalized the poster and then the following afternoon we had got copies made."Mike didn't say, "the day we realized Teresa was missing;" he said, "the day we reported Teresa missing."
Did they know she was dead before they reported her as "missing" at 2:52 PM on 11/3?
Teresa Halbach was supposed to be reported missing on 11/02/2005. For whatever reason, the start was delayed a day. It's not realistic for it to take CASO and MTSO only 5/6 hours to get the missing person segment on the 10 PM news, including her last whereabouts and clothes description (video above).
Missing person poster - just another typo?
by N64_Controller
https://web.archive.org/web/20060511183907/yeswi.org/htdocs/teresahalbach.pdf
This version of the poster was found on the archived site of the YES foundation. The date of 11/2/05 is either a typo or proof that TH's fate was known before 11/3/05.
Please have a look at the date bottom left in the PDF.
11/02/2005?
You can download the PDF and upload it to this site: https://www.get-metadata.com
You can see that the PDF create date is 11/4/2005 at 11:53:32, although the poster was probably first created in MS Word and then converted to pdf.
Just another typo?
Also, on the yeswi.org version of the missing person poster, the "missing" date has all the slashes but "Toyota Rave4" is spelled incorrectly.
On the Halbach computer the poster has a slash missing in the date and "Toyota Rav4" is spelled correctly (2:47 mark in video).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE
Also, the template has been the same since 2000:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/yeswi.org/images/LAHNNA01.jpg
ABC News 11/28/2005 clip:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/archival-video-steven-avery-faces-murder-charges-36097474
A news clip from November that shows the missing person poster without the footer (why would that be?).
Also a very emotional MH (/s) talking about how people should not forget his sister who was 'murdered' mere weeks ago.
P.S. That footer date was also cropped out at Brendan's trial:
http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/Missing-Woman/0a311a68dc954727bcfbc94dfca5bb16/43/0
I remember seeing a video clip of Mike Halbach sitting at a computer with a missing poster on the screen, could this be the one? Did they create it a day before they reported her missing to police?
[–]N64_Controller[S]
I linked to that clip:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE
[–]N64_Controller[S]
Fallon and Hillegas about YES and Jay Breyer:
Q. And as far as you know, he has no association with any law enforcement entity whatsoever?
A. I don't believe so, no.
Something to keep in mind here is that Ken Kratz, years before the TH case, was on the board of directors of YES.
https://imgur.com/rmAUXcU
[–]ThackerLaceyDeJaynes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHqDttgdwE&t=195s
At the 2:48 mark is the poster in question. Wondering if someone with better IT skills than me can screenshot and see if the bottom line says Nov 2nd. Also, in this video is Teresa's day planner on her parent's table. Just wondering if they made a copy?
[–]N64_Controller[S]
This one from SkippyMF also shows something unreadable.
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/exhibit-245.jpg
[–]ThackerLaceyDeJaynes
I zoomed in. It says the 2nd. What the heck. So, do I think it's odd they noticed her absence a day prior? Not at all.
I just don't understand why LE said this all began on the 3rd.
[–]N64_Controller[S]
All those buttons:
https://imgur.com/a/ap46phf
KK's connection to YES:
https://imgur.com/rmAUXcU
Jay Breyer calling on the evening on Nov 3. Who informed him?
My belief in a pre-planned frame job.
[–]N64_Controller[S]
What I personally believe and think is painfully obvious is that the Halbach family is part of this frame job. Whether TH is dead or not remains to be seen.. Many scenarios are still plausible, no matter what nay sayers claim to be ridiculous.
[–]thed0ngs0ng
I'm certainly right there with you. I find it amazing that so many can watch and listen to the Halbachs and actually find them sincere.
I love that MaM included the footage of Barb saying, "I think the Halbachs set this whole thing up, I really do."
[–]PetrichorGirl
I think it's possible that both TH was killed and LE/her family lied about when they first knew she was missing. Maybe LE wanted to buy some time by delaying the documentation of the missing person's report (to help LE figure out what to do with this "opportunity"). And they might have fed TH's family all kinds of BS about why this was good for the case, and convinced them to go along with it. Maybe that is why the family acts suspiciously - because they have been told they have be quiet about the exact circumstances of how TH was discovered to be missing.
[–]N64_Controller[S]
Yes, I agree that could be it! One of the plausible scenarios.
[–]skippymofo
Here another picture of the poster. You can find the "sponsored" text but it is too flimsy to read the date:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/exhibit-245.jpg
The exhibit version does not have the "sponsored" text. It seems they cut off the evidence poster because you cannot see this text.
There is another modification: from the web archive: may have traveled farther.
But on the Exhibit 10 you can read: may have been traveled farther.
Also the "license plate" on the exhibit poster looks like "lacense", but not sure about it.
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Exhibit-10-missing-person-poster.jpg
[–]Blondieblueeyes
The fact that Kratz cut off the part that shows the date as 11/2/05 is damning.
He showed the jury an altered exhibit.
by _ScuttleButts
Well if they knew that she was missing a day earlier then it calls into question why Scott B and Ryan H didn’t learn of it until the 3rd. Scott says that on the 3rd that TH stepdad shows up to his worksite looking for TH. That’s when he was made aware and that he calls Ryan that afternoon. Not too big of a deal until you consider the fact that Acott was her roommate and lived next door to TH parents who would have had to have come over looking for her prior to reporting her missing, yet that’s not how it’s claimed to have happened.
If they knew by 11/2 that she was missing or dead, then it was reported privately to someone like Jerry Pagel, who the family knew, then formally called in the next day as if that was the first report of it.
Why would Karen Halbach not just say, "I realized yesterday she was missing and called the sheriff, who is a friend of the family, and he said we had to wait 24 hours before making a formal report."
[–]seekingtruthforgood
It looks like an auto date entry established in the document, next to the entry of the organization it came from.
[–]Soloandthewookiee
How can you possibly tell the difference between a macro-created date and a manually-created one?
[–]seekingtruthforgood
It's in the footer area of the document where one selects the type of data to add to the photo. "Date" is a common selection, and it's often used by organizations to track the versions of the documents and updates.
[–]Soloandthewookiee
It's also in the footer area where one can manually type in the date. How can you tell the difference?
[–]seekingtruthforgood
You can't but, when a company adds footers to show the company and date, one who creates these types of Word docs realizes that auto date is commonly placed in the left entry.
[–]lickity_snickum
In a normal world, where there aren't several dozen other "coincidences" I honestly wouldn't give this a second thought. Unfortunately, "coincidences" (more than is humanly believable) abound in this case, so who knows WHY the date is a day before Halbach was reported missing.
[–]SpiritWolf395
It goes hand in hand with LE not opening the RAV4 at Avery's. LE knew she was dead!
Well, this better explains how they had those buttons already made and printed out to be picked up on the 4th.
Everything started a day earlier.
It also explains how Kratz said that Wiegert came into his office on 11/3 and reported that a missing girl was last seen at Avery’s.
[–]IndependentCourt4
This does not require "dozens and dozens" of LE officials.
The argument that they wouldn't "risk going to prison" is such a poor argument.
- If that were true, why would anyone commit a crime?
- It's disproven by the fact that cops do, in fact, commit crimes.
- Cops lie so often they have a special name for the list of lying cops: Brady list.
- Cops are punished far less often and with less punishment than other citizens.
Like anything else, it's a risk/reward tradeoff. They don't think they'll get caught, and if they get caught, they figure they'll get a slap on the wrist.
If that argument were correct, no cop would ever commit a crime and risk his cushy pension.
[–]Blondieblueeyes[S]
The missing poster for Teresa has the date 11/2/05.
She wasn't reported missing until 11/3/05.
It's a typo OR it was created before she was officially missing on the 3rd.
[–]tuckerm33
Look, every report and every piece of documentation has had a “typo” in it of some sort.
I think we are well beyond that element of benefit of the doubt at this point.
When everything is a typo, then nothing is a typo.
What we have is a planned disappearance and a planned framing for murder. The real reason we see date discrepancies is not because they are typos, it is because the plan was executed a day late.
All those reports and documents were created well in advance. Someone fucked up is the real reason why all the dates on the documents are all prior to her being reported missing.
The question is, who was the trigger person that was supposed to start the ball rolling and why did they slip up? Someone unknowingly disrupted their plan and it didn’t get off when it was supposed to with reporting Teresa missing.
LE had to play catch up and rework the reports they had made, but it’s clear now, the reason why reports don’t match is because they forgot to update all of them or couldn’t.
[–]WiskeyMcQueen
> "She was wearing blue jeans, white button-down shirt, and a spring jacket."
What I'm finding perplexing is the description in the poster of what she wearing.... Isn't that the exact description as given by Steven Schmitz, but he wasn't questioned until a later date, if I recall correctly?
[–]N64_Controller
Schmitz was questioned on 11/03; CASO page 6.
The poster contained a description of Teresa's clothes that was provided by Schmitz on 11/03.
How does Steven Schmitz fit the conspiracy if the poster was created on 11/02?
[-]magiclougie
Perhaps the description in the poster of what Teresa was wearing came from Scott Bloedorn, since he saw her at home on 10/31, per Karen Halbach in her 11/3 call to CASO.
Then witness statements from Schmitz and Jo Ellen were falsified to backup what was described in the poster.
Poster: "She was wearing blue jeans, white button-down shirt, and a spring jacket."
Schmitz on 11/3/05, per Wiegert's report: "She was wearing blue jeans, a white button down shirt with a summer jacket, unknown color."
At Avery's trial in 2007, Schmitz testified that Teresa "had blue jeans on, button up white blouse and a spring jacket, waist length. I believe it was blue in color." When asked by Kratz, "How long did you say the jacket was that she had on?," Schmitz replied: "I would say about waist length. It was like a summer jacket."
Jo Ellen Zipperer on 11/6/05, per Dedering's report: "The photographer was dressed in blue jeans with a darker jacket (waist length) and some sort of white top."
Bobby Dassey on 11/5/05, per Dedering's report: She "was wearing a dark colored waist length coat."
Bobby Dassey on 2/27/06, per Dedering's report: She "was wearing black coat, black trousers."
Maybe Teresa never made it to Steven Schmitz's home because he never called her back, which would mean that Schmitz committed perjury at Avery's trial. Steven Schmitz is the brother of Todd Schmitz, who took the blame for Attorney General Peg L when she drove her state-funded car into a ditch while driving drunk. BTW, Schmitz's mother is a Halbach (Steven Schmitz's wife's mother is also a Halbach).
And Dawn Pliszka, potentially an agent or informant for WI-DOJ, scheduled Teresa's appointments. Teresa also may have been an agent or informant: she and Dawn started working for Autotrader around the same time, in October 2004.
[–]Casablank10
Guess who was serving on the board of "Youth Educated in Safety" at the time? You guessed it - good old Ken Kratz (and YES's founder, Jay Breyer, is lacking in morals and ethics as bad as Kratz).
Related:
- Proof that the missing person poster footer date 11/02/05 was not a typo
- HOW and WHEN did Jay Breyer (YES Foundation) find out that Teresa was missing?
- A little background on Y.E.S., MPNWI and Mission: Home
Steven's mother Dolores has said she believes Teresa Halbach is still alive. Her theory, which she voiced on Boston Radio Programme The Hill-Man Morning Show in January 2016 (video above), aligns itself with the theories that Avery was framed. Speaking about Teresa, Dolores said: "I don't think she's even dead." When the host responded, "Oh, Really?," Dolores said: "I don't think so. There's so many of them [that] say that." When asked if she believed that Teresa had cooperated with police in a conspiracy to set her son up, she replied: "It could be." When asked about the bones found in Avery's yard, Dolores questioned whether they were Teresa's bones at all.
[–]PetrichorGirl
ReplyDeleteNow consider that SB was not called as a witness at trial (despite being central to the early days of the investigation, alongside RH and MH). And he won’t cooperate with KZ now, as far as we know.
I personally don’t believe SB had anything to do with her death, but I question the narrative that TH wasn’t reported missing until Nov 3. SB isn’t the only fishy thing in this respect:
MH talks about the “grieving process” before TH’s RAV is even found.
TH’s missing person’s poster is dated Nov 2, and that date gets cropped out of the trial exhibit, which must have occurred either at trial or later when the public requests a copy of it.
All the other “typos” like the RAV being seized on Nov 3 and SA being listed as a homicide suspect on Nov 3. Typos, typos, typos!
Speculation: Is it possible that SB actually raised the alarm before Nov 3? Was he told by LE to lie about this, because they want to hide the fact they were involved in investigating or “managing” the TH case before Nov 3? Is that why SB wasn’t called as a witness at trial, and why he’s scared to cooperate with KZ now?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/a98p6c/110205_side_by_side_compare_of_poster_on_yeswi/
According to Karen Halbach's call to 911 on 11/3, Teresa was last seen on Monday by her roommate Scott Bloedorn. He would have been the one to provide the description of what she was wearing, which was included on the poster created by YES.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/8c1tkh/full_transcript_of_karen_halbachs_call_to/
Something odd in TP's testimony about his call to TH's mother (self.TickTockManitowoc)
ReplyDeleteby PetrichorGirl
The state's narrative is that it was TP who first raised the alarm about TH being missing. He called TH's mother on Thursday 11/3 around 1pm, which then prompted the family to contact SB, RH, the police to make a missing person's report, etc.
At SA's trial, TP testified:
I called Karen, Teresa's mother, seeing if she knew. That was the only phone number I had, other than Teresa's. I didn't have any of her friend's. And talked to Karen about it. And she was going to call some of her friends, or she already had. And the next thing I know it was 10:00, on the news, I heard it was, officially, that Teresa was missing.
TP is a little vague here, and that’s understandable. But when he adds “or she already had”, it’s like he is recalling a memory of KH saying she had already called some of TH’s friends.
It's as if KH might have told him that she was already worried and was thinking about or had called some friends. Otherwise, why would he make a point of adding "or she already had"?
In her own testimony at both SA’s & BD's trials, KH says she started to worry after TP's call. Eg at SA's trial:
He called about one o'clock in the afternoon and he told me he was worried about Teresa because, not only had she not shown up for work Tuesday or Wednesday, but he had tried calling her on her cell phone, and it said the voicemail was full, and that concerned him because her cell phone was her business phone. She used that. It was easiest for her. And then I -- I said that concerned me, too. I was worried about her then, too.
TP's testimony bothers me. When exactly did KH first become worried about TH being missing? Do we have any other evidence that the family (KH, MH, etc) admits they at least wondered where TH was before TP's call?
Apparently SB has admitted that he noticed TH's RAV wasn't there as early as Tuesday 11/1 (though I can't find the source for this). And a 2005 news video posted on here today suggests the family started to worry when TH hadn't returned her sister's calls.
So when was it exactly that they had concerns? Before or after TP's call on 11/3?
It's all looking very strange with KH talking to the media about TH in the past tense even before the RAV was found, MH talking about the "grieving process" and of course that missing person's poster dated 11/2.
[–]7-pairs-of-panties
DeleteWell...when the missing persons poster has the date 11/02 in the left hand corner i’d Say there’s our answer. So the question then becomes why did they all lie about when they noticed she was missing? Who would have told them it was a good idea to lie about that kind of fact. Makes no sense and it makes me wonder if the call from AC to dispatch about the Carmen B death could have happened earlier than TH was “officially” reported missing.
[–]missingtruth
I believe it was in an article where Mike H. stated they became concerned on Wednesday 11/2 when Teresa did not answer or return calls to her younger sister regarding tickets to Courtney's play (which is on Teresa's day planner) and something about uniforms. These messages left by her younger sister were on the voicemail report. One of the calls was around 7 am and the other around 7 pm. So, yes, I believe there were concerns in place before TP called.
[–]PetrichorGirl[S]
Thanks. Assuming that’s the case, why then did they all stick to the story at trial that “11/3 was when we got worried”? Everyone’s testimony at trial backed each other up on this... except this little line by TP which is the subject of my post. Perhaps TP slipped up. Oops, might have accidentally told the truth!
To me it looks suspicious that all the witnesses at trial suddenly stopped mentioning any concerns they had about TH before 11/3. And that SB wasn’t even called as a witness.
And reading through all the testimony, the whole line of questioning by KK around this issue feels very set up and artificial. This is more of a gut feel I can’t prove, but it’s like KK pre-arranged all these witness answers and set them up with very controlled responses in order to establish that TH went missing on “11/3”. In a self-conscious way, as if someone might question that basic fact. Just an instinct I have. Same with his questioning about how the missing person’s poster came to be created.
[–]missingtruth
Oh, exactly. I feel like they definitely knew before but the big ? is why not report her missing to LE immediately? Why the big wait until TP called? It seems so rehearsed.
IMO, something is hidden here but what & why?
[–]PetrichorGirl[S]
IMO, something is hidden here but what & why?
Theory: LE knew she was dead, possibly as early as 10/31, and was playing this out as a “missing person” case while they figured out how to pin this on SA. To make it look real, they had to let some days go by for the family to get worried, report her missing, then have the search party stumble upon the RAV so that LE could get a search warrant for ASY, etc.
Perhaps LE convinced the family to go along with the fake “missing person” stuff because they convinced them this would improve the chances of catching the killer. Or some BS like that.
[–]PetrichorGirl[S]
> Perhaps they told them they had illegal surveillance on SA and know he’s guilty but can’t use it publicly or would ruin chances in court. This gets the H’s to cooperate in order to get what they think is the right man, meanwhile LE get to frame him to stop the depositions
Yes! This is very plausible. IMO much more plausible than theories about TH’s family being in on a plan to fake her death, etc. I think it’s very possible the family are innocent victims of LE’s lies and corruption. Thank you.
[–]SparePattern
DeleteI tend to lean towards this as well. I think it's possible the cops set up the story that they "knew" he did it, had proof, but had to have to go about having protocol go down a certain way, especially since the sensitivity regarding him in general. Maybe it's angled to be that they don't want anything to tip the Averys off that LE is investigating this so he doesn't run or destroy evidence, so if the family waits until 11/3 then there's less of a chance he runs, lawyers up, gets rid of things, etc while LE is "gathering evidence". I can see a family who wants complete justice, and who has 100% faith in LE, do whatever is asked because they think it's for the greater good. Unfortunately...... it's not only illegal, but look at the pickle that everyone is in now. Once the lie is stated, they're all stuck in the lie regardless of what motivated them to do it. That means, if any of them come forward (which i doubt anyway), then they're all branded liars (EMBARASSING), they've officially perjured themselves on the stand and obstructed justice (ILLEGAL), and if they snitch, the whole curtain is pulled back on the local justice system. Not a good situation for a family of "simple folk." So silence it is.
[–]PetrichorGirl[S]
I agree with you. It also explains a lot of the family’s weird behaviour. MH clearly has something to hide - look at that video of him being interviewed with RH. Very suspicious behaviour there. But I theorize that MH was helping LE with whatever they needed done to get a legit warrant and he honestly thought he was doing the right thing to help catch SA. I think the whole family was duped by LE in their state of grief, and now it’s very hard for them to come to terms with MaM and everything coming out now. They are probably victims here.
[–]Lonely_Crouton
well let’s figure this out, or make some guesses
how could pushing back and or synchronizing the date of when they realized she was missing benefit the bad guys?
why would it hamper their ability to frame steven if ppl knew teresa had gone missing much earlier than they claim?
[–]PetrichorGirl[S]
Easy. Because if they find TH dead as early as say 10/31 or 11/1 and they decide to frame SA, LE can’t just walk into ASY the same day and start planting stuff and saying “oh look, we cops just happened to be here at ASY and we found bones!”. That would be ridiculous.
To make this look at all genuine, they have to play this out as a missing person case to the public. Let a few days go by, then report her missing, then have a civilian search party acting with the Avery family’s permission stumble upon the RAV. Boom - there is your search warrant and this turns into a “legal” police search of ASY.
[–]missingtruth
It's funny to me also that Ryan calls her on 11/1 at 6:42 p.m.to ask about her weekend and Halloween parties, etc. and when she doesn't answer or call back (she always called back) he doesn't worry or bother trying to call her again until Scott B. calls him to tell him that Teresa's step-dad came to his job site inquiring if he had seen her around 4 p.m. on 11/3. I don't believe he ever calls her number again after that which I think is odd also. I would be continuing trying to call just in the hopes that she would answer.
https://reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/adwxz4/something_odd_in_tps_testimony_about_his_call_to/
Fallon & Hillegas:
ReplyDeleteQ. Mr. Hillegas, the YES Organization which you mentioned, that is an acronym for the Youth Education and Safety Organization.
A. I believe so, yeah.
Q. And that's an organization that was founded by Mr. Breyer?
A. Yes.
Q. And as far as you know, he has no association with any law enforcement entity whatsoever?
A. I don't believe so, no.
Why even ask that question?
Hillegas Testimony:
ReplyDelete11 Q. All right. Specifically, my questions are going
12 to be focussed on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday
13 morning. Think about those particular times, all
14 right. Now, first and foremost, you indicated
15 that posters were obtained on Thursday,
16 November 3rd?
17 A. Actually, the posters were obtained Friday, on
18 the 4th.
19 Q. All right. When did you become aware that
20 posters were on order, as it were?
21 A. I believe it was Friday morning. I had spoken
22 with the family and they had mentioned to me that
23 this foundation in Appleton was printing up the
24 posters. And they asked me if I could pick them
25 up.
[...]
24 Q. And how did you become involved in that?
25 A. Um, once we -- I heard she was missing, I believe
1 it was Friday morning, it would have been the
2 4th. I talked to the family that morning, and we
3 had arranged to pick up posters and -- pick up
4 posters in Appleton, at a missing person
5 organization and, basically, it kind of started
6 there.
7 Q. Did you help put together the posters or
8 suggest--
9 A. Um, the posters were already put together. I'm
10 not sure if the family collaborated. I'm pretty
11 sure it was the family that got together with the
12 missing person organization. They put the
13 posters together and printed them up for us.
14 Q. Did you use those posters yourself and later
15 distribute them to others?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. What sort of information was contained on them?
18 A. Um, there was a picture of Teresa, some of the
19 posters had a picture of Teresa as well as the
20 vehicle. There was information about her,
21 describing her, her height, weight, what she was
22 possibly wearing, and then, I believe, just a
23 little information that if anybody seen her that
24 they should call the number and there was the
25 number for the Sheriff's Department there, for
1 them to call.
2 Q. And so after you -- you picked up some of these
3 posters -- and this was Friday morning you said,
4 right?
5 A. Yes.
Jay Breyer Interviews 2019
ReplyDeleteAdvocate Reflects on Jayme Closs Case
WFRV Local 5
Published on Jan 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD4oABSAkZQ
Jay Breyer Interview 6 pm Live
WFRV Local 5
Published on Jan 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-amStm3cL-4
A little background on Y.E.S., MPNWI and Mission: Home (self.TickTockManitowoc)
ReplyDeleteby N64_Controller
This post contains a small collection of quotes from documents that show some of Jay Breyer's colorful history regarding his 3 non-profit organizations: Y.E.S., MPNWI and Mission: Home.
1994: Jay Breyer founded the Youth Educated in Safety (Y.E.S.)
Jay Breyer has been an advocate for the missing persons for over 20 years after the abduction and murder of his two year old niece, Amy Ann Breyer in July of 1991. In 1994, Jay founded Youth Educated in Safety, Inc. (Y.E.S.) and is currently the Board President of Mission:Home. He has been recognized by: The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, The Wisconsin State Clearing House for Missing and Exploited Children and Adults and was recognized by the Fox Valley Community at the Janet Berry volunteer of the year.
Jay threatened he would hang Y.E.S. employees and board members with unpaid payroll taxes if he did not get sole and personal use of the vehicle Les Stumpf Ford was going to donate.
1999 - False claim of setting up a fund (Sarah's search fund) together with the coordinator of the Wisconsin Missing Child and Adult Clearinghouse; False police report of a break in; Unsubstantiated cash withdrawals; Missing Checks; Personal use of credit cards; Personal use of phones; Unpaid bills; Missing petty cash.
2000 - 12 people quit the board and called for Breyer's resignation. Breyer resigned for a week. And then with no board left to monitor the organization Breyer stepped right back into it.
2008 - Financial irregularities for Y.E.S. were reported to Lt. Proretti of the Outagamie Sheriff‘s Dept.
It was reported to the Board that Lt. Proretti then shared the incident with Carrie Schneider, the Outagamie County DA, who determined there was enough cause to investigate. DA Carrie Schneider informed Lt. Proretti that she herself had a conflict of interest in the case and would withdraw.
Despite concerns with the Outagamie Sheriff‘s office having a possible conflict of interest, Lt. Proretti and the Sheriff‘s department informed the board that the investigative side of the case did not have a conflict in the case. It was determined some time later, however, that Sheriff Gehring had a conflict of interest with the alleged political campaign contributions, taken from the principal in the investigation, Jay Breyer.
The Attorney General‘s office then took over the alleged possible theft investigation from the Outagamie Sheriff‘s office and called in the Integrity Bureau.
2008 - The dissolution of Youth Educated in Safety ( Y.E.S.) was authorized on October 2, 2008.
DeleteBilling personal phone via Y.E.S.; Unauthorized or undocumented disbursements; Unexplained cash withdrawals from Y.E.S. bank accounts; Unverified checks; $15k grant for computers not spent on computers; Unable to trace $10K donation; Undocumented donations from Outagamie County.
The conclusion of these audits, financials, service surveys, and continued media misinformation led the 2008 Board to reach a conclusion similar to the 1999 Board of Directors regarding financial irregularities.
That conclusion was to discontinue operations.
As a result of the mounting unreported discrepancies in financial information provided to the board from previous boards and board president – the dissolution decision was the only decision left to the board.
The Department of Justice and State Clearinghouse was contacted to provide case histories for the organization and other documents showing that the YES organization had in fact assisted in the search of missing persons or assisted the State Clearinghouse in any way. Three department heads clearly stated and then replied in an email that at No Time did Mr. Breyer or the YES organization assist law enforcement in the search of missing persons.
The Attorney General‘s office and Division of Integrity agents did not ask questions of the Board Secretary and Board Treasurer in regard to the discoveries and findings of impropriety and possible misappropriation of funds by Mr. Breyer.
Rather, the agents appeared to be focused on attempting to find fault with the Board of Directors decision to follow the law as fiscal agents of the organization. Continual questions were posed as to motive of the board for asking to see its financial documents, its case history and actual families served.
The independent Auditor report from Kerber and Rose showed that former DA Vince Biskubic had issued checks from his DA Account to Mr. Breyer and Y.E.S.
Mission: Home became the successor organization to Youth Educated in Safety, or YES.
May 5, 2016 - Jay Breyer, of Hortonville, retired this week from his role as consultant to Mission: Home, a Grand Chute nonprofit organization founded in 2009. The volunteer-driven group provides safety education in the community and support to families when loved ones go missing.
Now guess who served on the board of Mission: Home, together with upstanding citizen Jay Breyer between 2010 and 05/03/2015?
Mike Halbach is a Video Assistant for the Green Bay Packers and joined the Board of Directors for Mission: Home in 2010. He holds bachelor’s degrees in both Communication Processes and Communication and the Arts from the University of Wisconsin – Green Bay. Mike has been an advocate for the causes of missing persons and victim’s rights since the abduction and murder of his sister, Teresa Halbach, in 2005. With the help of Jay Breyer and his staff of volunteers, Mike and his family received the closure they needed to feel at peace. He has been the media spokesperson for his family since the beginning of the search for Teresa.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160122150412/http://www.missionhomewi.org:80/Board.php
But not anymore on 01/22/2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150503075145/http://www.missionhomewi.org:80/Board.php
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/aafirq/a_little_background_on_yes_mpnwi_and_mission_home/
[–]PetrichorGirl
DeleteGenerally speaking, someone who has financial difficulties or a history of financial mismanagement is considered to be at a heightened risk for accepting bribes or other corrupt/improper behaviour. It’s a red flag to any investigator.
I don’t know anything about this particular person, other than what you’ve posted, but I think this rabbit hole deserves some more investigating.
I wonder if KZ’s team would consider interviewing this man...
If the date of the missing person’s poster is just an innocent typo, then let’s hear that. But the wrong date and the fact it is then cropped out of the trial exhibit is so suspicious that we at least need to ask the question: what went on here?
[–]Booty_Grazer
DeleteI keep saying it but it falls on deft ears. This was all laid out when Steve was announced to get out in 5/2002 after the hairs in the PennyB case were not his.
Everyone in WI government knew where this was going, who had the deep pockets and what it meant to WI.
The moment Steve walked out of prison persons were already plotting the exit strategy that could eliminate not just the lawsuits but the civil rights volatilizations. To not believe that your as dumb as the jury was in 1985 case with Steve’s 16 whitenesses.
Peg’s letter in December of 2003 really was the icing on the cake. This was a blatant lie, no investigation was done on MTSO.
AG Brad Schimel knows just like Scott Walker knows “the truth”. Which is why WI is so hell bent on not allowing evidence to be retested.
They all know, just like I keep preaching the last 3 years; and many keep saying, no way it’s not possible, “she was so close to her family”. Bullshite. If she was so close why stay in GreenBay 3 additional years after graduation? She sure didn’t run home after college. It all a huge lie and KZ will start flipping persons who know the truth, wait n see.
And now Peg's son, Josh Kaul, is the new AG.
Peggy Ann Lautenschlager (November 22, 1955 – March 31, 2018) was an American attorney and politician who was the first chair of the Wisconsin Ethics Commission. She was Attorney General of the State of Wisconsin from January 3, 2003 to January 3, 2007. She succeeded fellow Democrat Jim Doyle when Doyle was elected Governor of Wisconsin in 2002.
When Teresa started as a photographer on the newspaper, the Fourth Estate, in fall 2001, she listed her life goal as becoming a photojournalist for National Geographic. At the end of the year, on the graduate send-off page, she had changed her outlook a bit. "I just want to be financially comfortable, enjoy life and see the world," she said.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.uwgb.edu/univcomm/news/inthenewsarchive/2005/teresa11-05.htm
[–]Philly005
ReplyDeleteI have also come to believe that Theresa was not murdered at all. With the ties to the money, the key players, the evidence or lack there of, and the way the state is trying to stall/bury the cases of BD and SA, it all adds up to them all taking care of a problem for protection, monetary gain, and to solve the problem of someone blowing the whistle on the corruption.
That's why everyone says they didn't have anything to do with it, because nobody killed her. BoD is telling the truth that he didn't do it. All the different paths the evidence takes you is intentional to cause confusion and blur things to where you'll never piece it all together. That's why KZ is now at the bone evidence, and why the coroner was walled off from the whole thing. She is done messing around and wants to go right after something that would clearly blow apart the entire case and free both SA and BD. Problem is these guys decided a long time ago that they were going to do this and would never let the truth come to light as long as they had a say about it. They may not have a say at some point, but I'm not sure there's any recourse if the court just keeps rejecting and denying no matter what KZ gets.
And yes, that crooked ass lab definitely tested different samples, contaminated evidence, or both. Most likely with the help of crooked cops mislabeling evidence.
There's no way on earth this wasn't cooked up by the state and major players. Avery is completely innocent, and I'd be floored if we ever got confirmation that the bones are conclusively that of Theresa.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/ah41b0/jesus_christ_oh_mighty/
Check out this post:
Halbach Alive (Theory Re-visited)
January 22, 2019
https://productionsouth.wordpress.com/2019/01/22/halbach-alive-theory-re-visited/
Lick The Knife
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A similar case was going on at the same with the same players/usual shills (Simley & DrE). A pap smear was used to ID Rudy, whose head (except for jaw frag with teeth), lower legs & arms reportedly were never recovered.
There are eerie resemblances to the evidence collected for the Rudy & TH cases. Clark County clerk states there is nothing on file for the March 28, 2006 discovery along the Chippewa River of Christine Rudy's torso (with intact fetus) and jaw frag with teeth (or for the testing).
8/17/17 OP about Christine Rudy is a must read. I believe the jaw bone frag & shin/tibia/lower leg bone frag in TH's case belong to CR. That's were BZ came from. And it's CR's DNA that was used to frame SA. TH's DNA was never sent to FBI.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/6ub6p6/documents_from_the_20056_rudy_case_including/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/7ykpom/the_teeth_or_lack_thereof_is_a_critical_piece_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/4zbqe7/concealing_what_the_remains_were_revealing
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/6ub6p6/documents_from_the_20056_rudy_case_including/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/6qs2cd/new_details_on_eisenbergs_identification_of_fetal/
Could it be that Teresa Halbach really is still alive? self.MakingaMurderer
ReplyDeleteby DrCapper
Jan 28, 2016
So the other day I listened to Avery's mother, Dolores, on a radio show being interviewed and she mentioned that she thought Teresa was still alive.
At first, I just shrugged it off and didn't think much of it. This woman has to be approaching 80 and has been through the mill.
Then I was checking out Barb's Facebook page earlier today, and noticed a post she made in 2014:
Barbara June 30, 2014 ·
Why do people have to be so cruel, why can't they just leave things alone. It's almost been 9 years now and they still bring it up. There are a lot of people out there that believe she is still alive and overseas. I believe that to. Investigators are crooked just like most cops. They lie to the person to get what they want. They will bat for you in the beginning and screw you in the end.Just wish the person that did this or knows something about it would come forward. Brendan Dassey is INNOCENT.............................STEVEN AVERY is too,
Then I started thinking. Could it be possible?
Between the insanely odd "if I die" tape and the entire family's complete lack of emotion during the trial showing no signs they lost someone close to them, it suddenly seemed possible.
I mean what mother and father would be that void of emotion after losing a daughter?
Then of course there's Mike Hallbach's over the top odd behavior, who is constantly seen smiling and clearly loving every bit of attention he was getting while jumping at every opportunity to be on camera, not to mention the "starting the grieving process" line he dropped, before her body was even found.
Dean Strang has said numerous times that cops don't frame people because they're innocent, they do it because they think the person they're framing is guilty.
Could this be an insanely elaborate set up that the whole family agreed to participate in (with good-hearted intentions) where Teresa would fake her death to help put a "bad guy" behind bars?
It sure seems over the top but unless I'm going completely crazy, it would explain SO MUCH, especially the lack of blood.
They wouldn't of even been able to plant the amount of blood in the trailer / garage needed to make it look like a real murder if she was really alive, which would explain the tiny amount of blood in the RAV 4 and the blood on the bullet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/432rl2/could_it_be_that_teresa_halbach_really_is_still/
They may want to frame them if they think it will save them 36 millions dollars...
DeleteTeresa Halbach's missing persons poster states her height as 5'6". That is a lie. She is shorter than that, 5'2" to 5'4".
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ranker.com/list/female-celebs-who-are-5-ft-6-in/celebrity-lists
TP was a member of the Business Marketing Group (self.TickTockManitowoc)
ReplyDeleteby N64_Controller
Tom Pearce testified he expected Teresa Halbach to come in to the studio on Wednesday 11/02 around 11:00 after her weekly Business Marketing Group meeting.
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Jury-Trial-Transcript-Day-1-2007Feb12.pdf#page=199
Is the weekly BMG group meeting blacked out on the dayplanner?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_csOUJZki4J5ZLdDh_BLc31W7SdTfnC/view?usp=sharing
The following webpage was indexed in 2008. At that time Tom Pearce was a member of the BMG group.
If he was a member in 2005, he would've been AT the meeting too or if he was worried about TH he would've called one of the attendees to ask if she attended.
https://web.archive.org/web/20081026025458/http://www.hbba-wi.org:80/hbbawi/chapters/bmg/default.asp
FYI TH had a business card of LT in her car (CASO P427).
4 HBBA newsletters from 2008 can be found with this search string:
site:http://archive.constantcontact.com "business marketing group"
When TH didn't show up for the meeting. Wouldn't any of the members sound the alarm??
https://reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/cwahuc/tp_was_a_member_of_the_business_marketing_group/
The YES missing person poster was created on 11/2/05, with a full description of what TH reportedly was wearing.
ReplyDeleteKratz says Wiegert told him on the morning of 11/3/05 that Teresa was missing.
Pages 8-9: "On November 3, 2005, Mark Wiegert ... knocked on my door ... A young woman named Teresa Halbach had been reported missing that morning."
Zellner's refutation: "Teresa's mother, Karen Halbach, first reported Teresa missing at 2:52 p.m. on November 3, 2005."
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Delete@7pairsofpanties
Feb 11
Where did they get the description of what Teresa was wearing if they made the posters on Nov 2nd? They hadn’t talked to any of the customers till 11/03 or after? Who said what she was wearing to put on posters on 11/02? #MakingaMurderer