Sheriff Jerry Pagel, the Boss, "Has Something He Wants Us to Do"

Jerry Pagel is GIDDY at the test results of SA's DNA on the key and in Teresa's car.

"We got his blood in a car that he says he's never been in."

"hahahahah"#MakingAMurderer #SAtheCareerBoosterhttps://t.co/qxNQYKdC31

— NotAC (@Rookie1082) August 9, 2018

Steven Avery's attorney Stephen Glynn is on hold with CASO dispatch when Sheriff Jerry Pagel calls at 9:21 PM on November 9, 2005, 4.5 hours after Steven was taken into custody by CASO at 5:03 PM for "felon in possession of a firearm":


Reading the pre-trial testimony is revealing in that it shows how involved Pagel was. I'd always assumed he was probably just the figure head of the county of residence of the missing person and which assumed leadership of the investigation. But it now looks as if he may have led, ostensibly, anyway, the focus on the Avery property and Steven Avery. From the moment I began reading pre-trial testimony, I suspected that Calumet's Pagel became the "front man" while Manitowoc was providing ideas or orders rather than just "equipment" and "resources." - MMonroe54, Reddit

Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel's testimony (page 460):

Q. Were you acquainted with the Halbach family personally, before November 3, 2005?

A. I know members of the Halbach family, yes, I do.

Q. Personally?

A. Yes.

Q. Had you known Teresa Halbach personally?

A. No, I did not.

Q. But you knew some members of her family?

A. Yes.

Q. Was that in part why Detective Wiegert said he was calling you that evening?

A. No, it was not. He had no knowledge that I would have known the Halbachs.

Q. But what he did say was, hey, we need to get the public's help, or words to that effect?

A. Yes, he felt that it was important that the information be disseminated to the media so that they could disseminate it to the public for their assistance.







Will former Calumet Sheriff Jerry Pagel meet me to talk about Ryan Hillegas?

By John Ferak

June 14, 2017

Today, at my newspaper office in Appleton, Wis., I came across an old email. Its sender was retired Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel. He sought me out on the heels of the Milwaukee federal judge's ruling overturning the 2007 murder conviction of Brendan Dassey and coinciding with my three-day statewide investigative series over the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department's suspected cover-up of the 1999 hit-and-run fatality of RickyHochstetler, 17. My series chronicled the long-standing suspicions surrounding current Manitowoc County Sheriff Rob Hermann and his younger brother, Todd, who was third in command until leaving the police profession this January, soon after turning age 50. 

Here is the full text of Mr. Pagel's email from last Fall: 

Just a question – why are you not doing any in-depth stories about the history and background concerning the Avery’s? You (sic) articles continually try to make the police look bad and since you delve into the history of Manitowoc County Sheriff’s Department and the rumors, why not delve into some of the “rumors” about the past of the Avery family members and the salvage yard? Seems a bit biased. Certainly we have a vested interest in the outcome of that particular trial, but we continually notice only “cop” stories in your columns. - Jerry & Mary Pagel 

Today, I went ahead and emailed Pagel back. My primary reason is to interview him regarding overlooked murder suspect Ryan Hillegas.

http://post.cr/2s2pMcc

My email response to Pagel: 

Given the most recent court filings and developments regarding the Teresa Halbach murder case, I wanted to ask you some questions about Mr. Ryan Hillegas and your interactions with him. I am reachable at 920-993-7115. If you prefer to meet up in person, we can do that as well. 

Presuming Pagel is open to meeting with me in person for an interview, what questions would you want to ask the retired sheriff? One of the questions I want to ask surrounds the aftermath of "Making a Murderer." I am curious what members of Calumet and Manitowoc County law enforcement, past and present, Pagel has interacted with and what were these discussions? I also intend to ask some questions related to the Nov. 4 flyover he spearheaded with sheriff's investigator Wendy Baldwin.

Someone pointed out to me today that Pagel is not the first key law enforcement on the Halbach murder case to send me an email at the newspaper lambasting my coverage. The first was Manitowoc County Lt. of Detectives Andy Colborn. That story is here: http://post.cr/1RSVd0m

From Colborn's email last year: 

You know all these allegations against Mr. Lenk, myself and our agency are totally false, yet you continue to support these lies and exacerbate the problems they cause ... Your lack of responsibility and your bias is appalling. I know the truth doesn’t sell newspapers as much as lies and controversy, but for once try thinking about the consequences of the slander and defamation that you are authoring and participating in. A word of caution, be careful what you wish for. If Steven Avery is ever freed, he may just become your neighbor, and he may want to bring his nephew with him. 

Given that Colborn has ducked the news media ever since "Making a Murderer," I am not 100 percent confident Pagel will call me up for an interview. I hope he does. Back in the day, Pagel was a news media savvy sheriff, but at this critical juncture, with Zellner's Steven Avery court case heating up, Pagel may decide to lay low and become (or remain) a behind-the-scenes mover and shaker.

Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel's Activity on November 3rd, 4th and 5th, 2005

Wiegert called Jerry Pagel at his home on the evening of November 3rd (pre-trial testimony):

"I believe it was November 3rd, our department received a call of a missing person, that being Teresa Halbach. Our agency became immediately involved in speaking with the relatives and friends of Teresa. And, ultimately, that Thursday evening, I received a call at home from Investigator Mark Wiegert, informing me of the fact that Teresa Halbach was missing and that last contact with her had been on October 31st."

Also on the evening of November 3rd, Pagel went to the Calumet County Sheriff's Office and contacted the media to release information on the missing person's case (CASO, page 12, and pre-trial testimony, page 450):

"Shortly after I received the call from Investigator Wiegert, I responded to the Sheriff's Department. And it's been my theory, and also information that has been provided to me through investigative matters, that the quicker you get information to the media the better. We need public's assistance in trying to locate missing individuals, and this was my thought that evening, was to get the information about Teresa, about her disappearance, to the media, so that we could have the public's assistance in attempting to locate her."

At 7:30 a.m. on November 4th, at CASO, Schultz spoke briefly to Pagel, who sent Schultz to Hilbert High School at 1139 Milwaukee Street. Schultz departed from CASO at 8:20 a.m. and arrived at HHS at 8:35 a.m. He spoke with all the seniors at 8:55 a.m. (CASO, page 23):

"Sheriff PAGEL also asked that I look into a recently called phone number of 864-7110 to see if I could ascertain who that number came back to. I left the Sheriff's Dept. at approximately 8:20 a.m. and arrived at HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL at 8:35 a.m. At approximately 8:55 a.m., I spoke with all the seniors at HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL and advised them we were attempting to locate TERESA. None of the seniors at the high school were able to provide any information."

At 8:57 a.m. on November 4th, Schultz was en route to Greenleaf, Wisconsin (per CASO dispatch log). While en route, he pulled over and called Brad Czech's land line, which was the number that Pagel had given him (Czech lived at 6693 HWY 57, Trailer 19, in Greenleaf):

"While on my way to the area of CTH K and CTH PP, I pulled over to the side of the road and dialed the 864-7110 number. I, at that time, received the voice mail of a BRADLEY C DJ. I left a message for BRADLEY C, whomever that may be, to contact me as soon as he received this message."

In his November 4th activity report, it states Schultz "notified" Pagel that the number belonged to Brad Czech and then Schultz searched "sandpits" in the area of County Road K and Jodar Road, just south of Greenleaf (he did not go to Czech's home in Greenleaf):

"After receiving the voice mailbox for BRADLEY C, I did notify Sheriff PAGEL of my findings as to the user of that number. I then searched the area of CTH K and the area of Jodar Rd., namely the sandpits located on the north side owned by DAVE JANNETTE & COMPANY. I was unable to locate anything."

The CASO dispatch log indicates that Schultz returned to CASO or was at Teresa's home at 9:42 a.m. on November 4th.

Around 10 a.m. on November 4th, Pagel was with Wiegert at Teresa's home, at which time (10:08 a.m.) Wiegert briefly interviewed Ryan Hillegas (CASO, page 31 and CASO dispatch log). It is the only record for an interview of Ryan by law enforcement (if the FBI or the Wisconsin DCI interviewed Ryan, the interviews were not entered into evidence).





At 10:46 a.m. on November 4th, Schultz was at a residence on S. 6th Street in Hilbert (per CASO dispatch log). This is the street where Ryan lived with his parents at the time. The street number has been redacted from the log released to the public in 2016. However, you can see that the number is two digits and appears to begin with a "1." Yet, there isn't an address on that street that is two digits and begins with a "1."

Suspiciously, Schultz's activity report for November 4th doesn't mention anything about him being at an address on S. 6th Street in Hilbert from 10:46 to 11 a.m. or longer (CASO, page 23).

Instead, the report goes into elaborate detail about who was listed by "dispatch" and CASO's "computer system" as having Brad Czech's land line number and that Schultz traveled to 8253 County Road W in Greenleaf, the address on record in CASO's system for Brad Czech's land line (which was not Czech's residence in Greenleaf, but the residence of Rachel Schindler):

"It should be noted prior to leaving the Sheriff's Dept., I had the 864-7110 number run through our computer system. Dispatch advised it came back to MELISSA SCHULTZ, who resided at 8253 CTH W in Brown County. After checking the area of CTH K, I drove to that residence to see if I could locate MELISSA SCHULTZ. I arrived at the CTH W address at approximately 9:40 a.m. I spoke with one resident of that address, identified as RACHEL SCHINDLER. She indicates she and JOHN PROPSON (ph) live together at that address, along with a PETE FRANK who lives in the other apartment. In speaking with RACHEL, she indicates she doesn't know a MELISSA SCHULTZ or a TERESA HALBACH. RACHEL thought that JOHN PROPSON might know MELISSA SCHULTZ. I gave her my name and phone number for him to contact me. It should be noted, he did call back in the afternoon and that phone call was forwarded to Inv. MARK WIEGERT. It should be noted, he did call back in the afternoon and that phone call was forwarded to Inv. MARK WIEGERT. After leaving the CTH W address, I returned to the county by way of Man-Cal Rd. I searched Man-Cal Rd. up to Brant-St. John Rd. in our county. Nothing of interest was found."

In his report for activity, it states that at approximately 11 a.m. on November 4th Schultz returned to Hilbert High School to search for Brad Czech's number on the internet, even though he confirmed earlier that the land line number belonged to Czech (CASO, page 24), and even though he could have returned to the Sheriff's Department, which he did next, to search the internet.

"I then stopped at the HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL at approximately 11:00 a.m. By way of the Internet, I searched the 864-7110 number, along with BRADLEY C DJ. While doing so, I came across a website devoted to Dr. MUSIC DJ's. While looking through that website, I did come across the name BRADLEY C who gave several e-mail addresses. I subsequently went to BRADLEY C's website. That website was www.bradleyc.com. While looking through the BRADLEY C website, I found a couple of photos showing an adult male, later identified as BRADLEY CZECH, with TERESA HALBACH. After finding these websites, I printed these pages and subsequently gave copies of that information to the investigative staff."

At 11:10 a.m. on November 4th, Schultz "notified" Pagel of photos he found on Brad's website while he was at Hilbert High School for the second time that morning (CASO, page 24).

"I also notified Sheriff PAGEL of the photos."

However, according to CASO's dispatch log, Schultz was not at Hilbert High School a second time on November 4th. Instead, Schultz was at CASO at 11:10 a.m. on November 4th.

At 11:52 a.m. on November 4th, Schultz was at CASO (per CASO dispatch log), where he spoke in person to Pagel and Dedering (CASO, page 24).

"After returning to the Sheriff's Dept. and speaking with him [Pagel] and Inv. DEDERING, I was advised that a BRADLEY CZECH lived at 6693 HWY 57, Trailer 19, in Greenleaf. I was requested to go to that address to see if I could ascertain if that subject lived there."

At 12:25 p.m. on November 4th (per CASO dispatch log), Pagel sent Schultz to Brad Czech's home in Greenleaf (CASO, page 24), where Schultz had spent the morning driving around, yet Schultz had never tried to find Czech's home during that time, apparently because Pagel didn't give him Czech's address (Schultz purportedly only was tasked with confirming that 864-7110 — a number Pagel got from old land line records of Teresa's dating back to December 2004 — was Czech's land line).

At 12:52 p.m. on November 4th, Schultz arrived at Czech's home (CASO, page 24 — "at approximately 2:10 p.m., Inv. WIEGERT and Inv. DEDERING arrived and approached the residence to conduct their interview").

Around 1:30 or 2 PM on November 4th, Pagel and Baldwin went up in an airplane and flew over Manitowoc, Brown and Calumet counties for about two and a half hours, until about 5 PM (CASO page 41, Curtis Drumm's testimony page 108, and CASO dispatch log). The plane wasn't equipped with aerial photography equipment: the pilot testified that one of the investigators was taking pictures and that he didn't recall anybody using a video recorder (page 116). Drumm testified that they spent 15 to 20 minutes flying over Avery Salvage Yard.

At 8:30 a.m. on November 5th, Pagel was with Dedering at Teresa's home performing a "test fax" (CASO, page 56). This was during the time period Pam Sturm (Pagel's cousin by marriage and Teresa's first cousin) arrived at Teresa's home and volunteered her services to Ryan Hillegas in searching Avery Auto Salvage.

At 10:29 a.m. on November 5th, Pam Sturm called the CASO dispatch center and spoke with Pagel about finding the RAV4 at Avery Auto Salvage (CASO, pages 58-66).

At 11:10 a.m. on November 5th, Pagel stated that he arrived with Wiegert and Dedering at Avery Auto Salvage (CASO, page 58).

Around 4 p.m. on November 5th, Pagel first logged in at the "crime scene" on the Avery property.



The following is an excerpt from Ryan Hillegas' testimony during direct examination about November 3rd:

Q. Now, on the 3rd -- By the way, that would be the first day that she had been reported missing; is that your understanding? 

A. Yes.

Q. On the 3rd, were there other friends or other family members who were assisting you in the search effort?

A. Yes. Yeah, it was me, Scott Bloedorn, one of her girlfriends, Kelly Bitsen (phonetic), came over. I believe a little later another friend, named Lisa, was over as well. 

Q. About how long that evening did you work on this project? 

A. Well, for the good portion of the night, probably, I guess, until midnight, 1:00. We were calling friends and other people we didn't get a hold of and people that were finally returning calls later. Better portion of the night. 

The following is Ryan's pre-trial testimony about his activity on the morning of November 4th:

Q. And did you, at some point, become involved in some searches of the area?

A. Yes.

Q. And how did you become involved in that? 

A. Um, once we -- I heard she was missing, I believe it was Friday morning, it would have been the 4th. I talked to the family that morning, and we had arranged to pick up posters and -- pick up posters in Appleton, at a missing person organization and, basically, it kind of started there.  

Q. Did you help put together the posters or suggest—

A. Um, the posters were already put together. I'm not sure if the family collaborated. I'm pretty sure it was the family that got together with the missing person organization. They put the posters together and printed them up for us.

Q. Did you use those posters yourself and later distribute them to others?

A. Yes.

The following is Wiegert's report on his "interview of Ryan J. Hillegas" on November 4th:

On 11/04/05 at approximately 10:08 a.m., I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.) along with Sheriff PAGEL of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. went to TERESA HALBACH's residence. Upon arrival, I met with RYAN HILLEGAS along with several other friends who were at her residence. RYAN stated the last time he had seen TERESA HALBACH was on Sunday, 10/30/05. RYAN stated TERESA seemed completely normal and they had talked about Halloween parties. He also told me TERESA was in very good spirits. RYAN described TERESA as being extremely independent. He told me he has known TERESA since they were freshmen in high school and they had dated on and off for approximately five years during that time. RYAN states TERESA previously lived at the address of 425 S. Monroe Ave., Apt. 2L, in Green Bay. He stated she had moved back to the Hilbert area in November of 2004. That was the end of my conversation with RYAN.

During his pre-trial testimony, Wiegert doesn't mention Ryan when he is asked about his activities on November 3rd. However, he does mention Ryan when he described his activities on November 5th.

Wiegert never testifies in detail about his November 4th activity, except for his interview of Brad Czech on that day (this was during cross examination, page 213).

The following is an excerpt from Wiegert's direct examination by Kratz at Avery's trial (Kratz skillfully navigates around November 4th).

Wiegert: We had also received a printout of some phone calls, correction, a phone bill that -- Teresa's phone bill actually. So we had taken that and tried to do some reverse directory things to find out who some phone calls had been made to. We also contacted Auto Trader because we knew that she had worked for Auto Trader. And they had given us some information, some appointments that she was supposed to have on the 31st. So we started following up on those type of things on that Thursday night. We went as long as we could on Thursday night, which I think we worked till probably 11:30, maybe midnight or so. We decided that we would meet back first thing on Friday morning. I think we actually came in early, around 7:00 in the morning. That morning we sat down, myself, two other investigators, and the sheriff, actually. We sat down and put together kind of what we knew at that point and decided that we would start doing some interviews.

Kratz: Let me just stop you there, Investigator, because I'm quite certain Mr. Strang would prefer I do this more by question and answer. The 4th, that is, the Friday, the 4th of November, did your missing persons investigation continue?

Wiegert: Yes, it did.

Kratz: All right. And we have heard some of the details of that missing persons investigation, but so that I can move to the area of concern for why you are being called at this moment as a witness, the next day, that is, the 5th of November, were you informed of and, in fact, did you participate in a phone call from a Pam Sturm?

Wiegert: I did. You probably heard the phone call earlier, in testimony. But we had received a phone call at around 10:29 in the morning on that Saturday from Pam Sturm, who had indicated that she had located a vehicle matching the description of Teresa's vehicle.

The following is Wiegert's pre-trial testimony about his activity on the morning of November 5th:

Q. Okay. And so, you did arrive on Saturday morning at Teresa's residence?

A. Yes, that's correct.

Q. And who was there?

A. Scott and Ryan were both there.

Q. Is that Scott Bloedorn (phonetic)? Is that how you say his name?

A. That sounds right.

Q. And the Ryan you are referring to is Ryan Hillegas?

A. Yes.

Q. And Ryan is -- was a former boyfriend of Teresa's, is that --

A. I heard that.

Q. -- right?

A. I'm not sure.

Q. And Scott was her roommate at the time, when she disappeared; is that right?

A. Yes. 

Q. Okay. Were there any other people there when you arrived?

A. No.

Q. So, did you ever attend any meeting with other searchers, to coordinate who would do what?

A. No.

 Q. Just when you got to Ryan -- or to Teresa's house, and those two people were there, is your only meeting; is that what you're saying?

 A. That's correct.

Interviews of Lenk, Colburn and Remiker about where they were on 11/4/05 (the night the Rav4 may have been planted)
By ticktockattorney, TickTockManitowoc
April 11, 2018

Certain people have been harping about how Avery said it was planting even before there was evidence of planting. So if everyone knew that planting was going to be a defense, why didn't the Calumet County Sheriff's Department interview the police involved in 2005 or 2006. Instead, they wait until 2007 to interview the MTSO LE. The interview of Lenk specifically says the purpose of the interview is to "pick up Lt. LENK's, Sgt. COLBURN's and Det. REMIKER's work schedules and speak with them reference their work schedule from 10/30/05 through 11/05/05 because the defense for STEVEN AVERY might be inquiring as to where these officers were from 10/30/05 to 11/05/05."

So here is what all three had to say about 11/4/05 (the night the Rav4 may have been planted):

REMIKER: On 11/04/05, Det. REMIKER worked 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM and did not recall the evening hours and his activities.

COLBURN: On Friday, 11/04/05, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he was off. He could not recall what he had done on his off day.

LENK: On Friday, 11/04/05, Lt. LENK indicated he was at work from the hours of 7:30 to 3:30 PM.

How convenient. None of them remembers anything after 4 PM. Did they go check their credit cards for any possible purchases? Did they check their phone records? These are investigators, right?

Ryan played for a garage band named "Conscious Lies"

Zellner Fires Shot @ Ex BF…

By Chad Keller
June 7, 2017

Ryan and Scott are going to be THE TOP two suspects in this case, being:

—A: Scott is her roommate

—B: Ryan is the ex-boyfriend (in and out of her home daily!)

Thus, leaving Ryan and Scott no choice but to get involved.

But what were they hiding before Teresa’s stepfather came to Scott’s work?

Why no concern at all that Teresa is gone?

Scott lives with Teresa, and he’s dodging phone calls.

Just because Scott's schedule is different than Teresa's doesn’t mean he can’t answer the stepfather’s phone calls.

Scott claims that he and Teresa had different schedules and that he didn’t see her for the past couple of days.

However, Ryan states in court that he dropped something off for Scott and then went and talked to Teresa on her level of the house (the first level), as she was sitting at her laptop.

Ryan has eventually got to come back around and visit Scott, right?

Surely, Scott can’t say he didn’t see Ryan either to notice Teresa was gone!

You have an obsessed Ryan involved in every move Teresa is making, and he is best friends with Scott—Ryan is going to come around mentioning her.

Halloween night passes—

Teresa never came home, but Scott never answered the phone when her family calls him?

You live right down the road from Teresa’s parents but her stepfather has to come all the way to Scott’s work to get answers about Teresa’s whereabouts?

Very little is known about Scott Bloedorn.

[—THE CONFESSION AND IMMUNITY]

According to District Attorney Ken Kratz in an article by Post-Crescent, throughout his years as an investigator, Pagel was known for having exceptional interviewing skills. "He often could get a confession just by talking to a suspect," Kratz said.

The missing person’s report sends the police of the Calumet jurisdiction out to Teresa’s home.

However, neither Ryan nor Scott, to this date, have ever provided an alibi to the public.

But, they never had to.

Ryan breaks weak.

Ryan confesses.

They learn of Scott’s involvement to help cover up.

Confessing first to one certain official in Calumet (Pagel), this one official (Pagel) and The Manitowoc County “Dirties,” in exchange for the confession, grant Ryan and Scott immunity.

They know the whole story.

That’s why instead of becoming the natural, TWO MAIN suspects in Teresa Halbach’s disappearance, Ryan and Scott become the leaders of the search group.

Why?

Teresa is dead, Ryan confesses.

Ryan, and maybe Scott, knows the true whereabouts of Teresa’s RAV4.

But the body and RAV4 are not at Avery’s, yet.

The Manitowoc County “Dirties” need the body and RAV4 to get there.



So where is Teresa and her RAV4?

They are off the beaten trail, where Ryan “went fishing.”

Teresa’s body is either buried in a small shallow grave or "buried at sea" in Lake Michigan or some other deep body of water (Ryan is a fisherman, and fisherman have access to boats).

Teresa's remains being at the bottom of a deep body of water would explain why it took the State four days after it commandeered the Avery property, on November 8th, to "discover" bones and teeth in Avery's burn pile and burn barrel #2 [Teresa's body couldn't be recovered from the lake and planted, so they needed at least partial cremains to plant (only 30 percent of the cremains of a body were planted), and these partial cremains could very well have been the body of Carmen Boutwell, who died from a methadone overdose on the morning of November 3rd, and whose body was turned over to LE, who offered to assist with the cremation, after her funeral on November 8th, yet the family didn't receive her cremains until weeks later].

But why are Ryan and Scott granted immunity and why have they become leaders of the search group?

If the public see these two—Ryan and Scott, heading up the search group—then, apparently, they’re already cleared by the police, right?

It’s the only logical reason supporting Ryan was the killer and Scott helped to cover it up—but in order to NOT MAKE THEM SUSPECTS, they have to lead the search group.

If they aren’t leading the search group, the public is going to ask the question, "WHY ARE THE ROOMMATE AND EX-BOYFRIEND NOT BEING QUESTIONED?"

If Ryan and Scott are NOT LEADING THE SEARCH, naturally, the community is going to be probing for questioning the two.

Why don’t they have an alibi?

Folks, Ryan and Scott were granted complete immunity, but in exchange…

Now, they have to help move Teresa and the RAV4 to Avery’s to frame him.

All the while, Ryan has to clean up behind himself.

[—THE MOTIVE TO FRAME]

Now why in the world would The Manitowoc County “Dirties” do this?

Why not arrest Ryan for the the murder of Teresa Halbach?

Why not arrest Scott for helping to conceal it?

Why would Ryan and Scott be granted immunity for their role in the true death and concealment of the death of Teresa Halbach?

The Answer:

It’s the perfect opportunity to frame Steven Avery and their best way, in all certainty, to stop a $36,000,000 lawsuit, being she was “last seen” on Avery’s property.

“The timing and confession of Teresa Halbach’s true killer was a money-saving prayer for Manitowoc County officials.”

[—THE MANITWOC COUNTY “DIRTIES”???]

Folks, it doesn’t take a lot of people to do this.

It doesn’t take the entire county to get involved.

It’s actually simple.

How simple?

All that has to be done is for one official (Pagel) in Calumet to grant them immunity, and then Manitowoc let Ryan and Scott lead the search group for the public eye.

Several Top commanders in charge never reveal Ryan’s murder and Scott’s involvement.

They are the Puppet Masters who pull the strings.

And just who are The Manitowoc County “Dirties”?

Just two of the top commanders named in the lawsuit planted the evidence.

“The Two Dirties”:

—James Lenk is one, and

—Andrew Colborn is the other.

And when Ryan and Scott are in Manitowoc jurisdiction, Colborn and Lenk are working hand in hand with them.

So, just how did Ryan and Scott get cleared by Calumet with little suspicion and become leaders of the search group in Manitowoc?

Well, one Wisconsin source let me know that a relative of Scott Bloedorn was a sheriff [who was thought to be Petersen].

But, when I researched more into this truth, it turned out to be Pagel (former Calumet sheriff).

Oh! Making sense now?

Scott Bloedorn is related to Sheriff Pagel?

And who’s jurisdiction is Scott Bloedorn living in if Scott is Teresa’s roommate?

Why, but of course, Calumet.

So, how many people total does it take to hide the true disappearance of Teresa and frame Steven Avery for all of this?

Only five.

Five people in total pulled off this whole thing:

Ryan, Scott, Pagel, Colborn and Lenk.

The lowers in the chain of command in Calumet or Manitowoc never knew of Ryan’s confession, nor Scott’s involvement.

No one in Manitowoc had jurisdiction to question Ryan and Scott.

Ryan and Scott confessed in Calumet to Sheriff Pagel, putting them completely in the clear while leading the search group in Manitowoc….in the “PUBLIC EYE.”

The Manitowoc “Dirties” had an advantage to use Ryan and Scott at their dispense to get Teresa’s body and her RAV4 to the Avery property.

[—PLANTING THE EVIDENCE]

All they have to do to pull this off is get Teresa’s body and the RAV4 onto Steven Avery’s property.

Just who are they again?

This is strictly Ryan, Scott, Pagel, Colborn and Lenk.

But what about Weigert and Remiker’s involvement?

Well, you heard their conversation on the day they wanted to search the junk yard….


"The boss has something he wants us to do..." It also comes out in Remiker's pre-trial testimony that he and Wiegert talked several times again that day but by cell phone, so there are no recordings of those conversations. Remiker said Wiegert called him and said: “Hey, we have a change of plans. I think we should reinterview Steven and another individual.” Remiker said that Wiegert also indicated there were some volunteer searchers who were willing to go out and do some searches in different locations -- that he and Remiker should meet and talk about that and maybe try to get permission from the Averys to search the salvage yard.

“THE BOSS SAYS” change of plans…

Pagel is keeping Weigert in check while Remiker is fed chain of commands from Lenk.

And Colborn is working with Ryan to get the RAV4 on the Avery property.

Ryan has to get to the “fishing hole” to get the RAV4 and get it back to the Avery property, along with giving Teresa’s body to Lenk, so he can have it burned elsewhere to place in Avery’s burn pile.

The body assuredly was given to Lenk way before Ryan drove the RAV4 from his “fishing hole” to the RAV4 discovery site on the Avery property (or, if Teresa's body was dropped into a deep lake, it may not have been recoverable, so the planters needed the cremated bones and teeth of another female to frame Avery).

Ryan even gets to park the RAV4 on the Avery property, with Lenk and Colborn letting him come through.

Hence the fact he knew exactly where to point Pam to find it.

Why do you think Ryan beforehand have purposely sent the rest of the searchers on a wild goose chase?

Ryan is handing out the maps.

Ryan's pre-setup task is to keep everyone away from that side of the Avery property.

[—And Teresa’s body being burned?]

With the way Ryan was clawed and scratched and bruised. as freshly as seen in the documentary, there is going to be Ryan Hillegas under Teresa’s nails.

Folks, not only does Ryan have no albi—but why is he never questioned for what looks like recently sustained bruises and scratches?

This is exactly why none of this ever comes out.

Because they already knew Ryan murdered Teresa.

So finding cremated bones and teeth in the burn pit?

It goes with the story of building a fire that evening.

Sprinkle bones at the Avery burn pit.

But, funny— they didn’t find the bones early.

I mean, if you’re suspecting Avery of murder… you go on that property and find those bones within five minutes.

Teresa’s body would have proved Ryan Hillegas was the killer.

What other evidence on Ryan is there that got left out because they knew he was the killer?

Ryan unlawfully hacks into her phone records from her laptop.

This itself is a criminal act, which proves Pagel and The Manitowoc County “Dirties” not only knew his motive and confession of the killing, yet they also allowed him to cover up behind him.



[—The Certainty of Evidence to Frame Avery]

To understand the logical probability of gaining a conviction in a case, you have to rule out suspects.

The Manitowoc County “Dirties” strategically placed, in the public eye, ex-boyfriend, Ryan Hillegas, and roommate, Scott Bloedorn, as the leaders of the search group.

Why?

What does this do?

It takes the the WOULD BE TOP SUSPECTS Ryan and Scott—if NOT appointed search leaders, it would leave locals to probe—and, logically, it says, “Hey, Ryan Hillegas and Scott Bloedorn are clear” (though, magically, without alibis).

This leaves the probability of the next TOP SUSPECT and "the person to see Teresa Halbach last, Steven Avery," to take the fall, with a bonus of snagging a coerced confession out of Dassey.

The Manitowoc County “Dirties” built the case evidence around Avery and Dassey’s statements.

All while hiding the evidence of Ryan Hillegas’ motive to kill Teresa Halbach—and Ryan’s very murder of Teresa Halbach, with the help of Scott to conceal.

With that being said, immunity is granted after Ryan confesses he killed Teresa, with Scott helping to cover it up.

But now, for the framing—

Ryan and Scott now have to get the body to the “Dirties” in order for the “Dirties” to get the RAV4 onto the Avery property.

Theoretically, this is the reason the search of the property took numerous days.

Not only do Ryan and Scott have to play spotlight search heroes, they have to work with the “Dirties” behind the checkpoint scenes to strategically print maps and send the members of the search group away so they can hide the RAV4 at the salvage yard.

The burning of the body becomes self explanatory: to make sure none of Ryan Hillegas’ DNA on Teresa is ever discovered, period (and to conceal the manner of death), or they didn't have a body to plant because it had been dumped in a deep body of water and couldn't be recovered.

[—Building the Case]

What exactly is Kratz’s involvement?

I seriously even doubt Kratz knew any of this either.

Kratz directed Ryan’s testimony naturally, knowing Avery’s defense would try to pick Ryan apart as being Teresa’s ex-boyfriend.

As far as Scott Bloedorn never coming to the trial?

Pagel leaves any evidence linking Scott out on purpose.

All Kratz knows is what everybody else in the public eye does.

Basically, Kratz was duped, like everyone else, believing RYAN AND SCOTT WERE CLEARED, leaving Kratz to argue that Avery was the last person to see Teresa alive.

Kratz is taking on a high profile case thinking AVERY is guilty from the beginning. He is completely in the dark about Ryan and Scott's confessions and the evidence of Teresa Halbach’s true death.



The involvement of Mike Halbach?

Young and naive at the time, he is completely innocent.

However, for his weird actions you have to remember this…

He’s very close to Ryan and Scott.

Ryan and Scott are working hand in hand with Colborn and Lenk in Manitowoc during this disappearance of Mike's sister.

So, naturally, to Mike, Ryan and Scott are, ironically, always at the scene of some new development in his sister’s disappearance case.

He’s supporting Ryan and Scott and the officers because, hell, Ryan and Scott are magically and ironically always ending up on the scene in the big turnout discoveries, like where they pointed Pam in the right direction and God helped Pam discover the RAV4.

The “Dirties” play Ryan and Scott against Mike, psychologically.



Mike Halbach had no involvement in his sister’s death.

It just happens to be he has no lead but Avery since RYAN AND SCOTT are cleared and are helping to turn up magic as search leaders.

So, to him, his natural thoughts are, AVERY DID IT.

He despises AVERY because that’s his only lead.

He’s defending Ryan because all Mike knows is that Ryan is in the clear.

Leave Ryan alone; go for Avery.

Are we a little closer to the truth yet, in theory?

Somewhere, justice will prevail for our three known victims:

Avery,

Dassey, and

Miss Halbach.

Might one day the world know the truth.

Ryan Hillegas Pre Trial Testimony: Excerpts, Summaries and Comments

By MMonroe54, TickTockManitowoc
January 5, 2018

Hillegas pre-trial testimony (p. 61-116):

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Partial-Motion-Hearing-Part-1-2006Aug09.pdf

Try as I do to keep posts brief, and to leave enough white space that they are not a wall of text, they are still too long and too dense. Therefore, I hope to limit Ryan Hillegas' actual testimony and instead summarize what he testified to, with comments, as usual.

From the beginning, in response to Buting's Direct Examination, Hillegas is often vague to the point of appearing evasive, but never hostile. He just appears incomprehensibly..... almost intentionally..... non-committal. It is my impression that Ryan Hillegas is a smart and canny guy.

In response to Buting's questions about searches, Hillegas says he told "Jerry" [Ryan is on a first-name basis with Sheriff Pagel] they were putting up flyers on Friday [Ryan is communicating this to "Jerry" on November 3rd or 4th, yet there aren't any reports by Jerry Pagel in the CASO file about his contact with Ryan] and their plan was to go out on Saturday "and drive around the countryside and look for anything that was interesting, or worth taking a second look at." He says he just kind of happened to become the coordinator and contact for the whole search. He says "basically, I guess it started with me."

A note here: Hillegas uses the word "basically" a lot, so much that it could begin to look like a qualifier, as in, "maybe, maybe not." A way of hedging his bets, so to speak (another tribute to Fassbender -- "so to speak"). But that's only an assumption; it could simply be a habit .... the way I use "apparently" lol. But he says it so much that Fallon, at one point, calls him on it. When Fallon is cross examining Hillegas, he asks about Pam Sturm showing up to volunteer and her suggestion that she search ASY.

Fallon: It was her idea?

Hillegas: Basically, yes.

Fallon: All right. Well, when you say basically?

Hillegas: Yeah, it was entirely her idea. She was the one that mentioned it to me.

So even Fallon has noticed how often Hillegas says "basically," And wants to clarify that in this instance it means "yes" not "maybe." And perhaps, to draw Ryan's attention to how often he says it?

Hillegas also says "I don't know," "I'm not sure," "I don't remember," "I don't think so," "I'm not real clear," and "I believe so" a lot. As in, a lot.

Hillegas doesn't know when or if he talked to Wiegert, and if he did talk to him, what he told him. He doesn't know if he told him about a meeting on Saturday morning to organize searchers. When asked "Did you have any information from the police, or otherwise, as to where Teresa was last seen or where she was going on the day she was last seen," his answer is: "I'm not sure. I don't believe that -- that we knew where she was last seen then. I'm not real clear about that, like I say." But then he says, “I knew that she had been taking pictures out in the Manitowoc County area.”

Q. Okay. And did you know that one of the locations was the Avery Salvage property?

A. I believe I did, yes.

Hillegas seems sure of some things, totally unsure of others. He's sure what they did Friday, with creating and marking maps. He knows they stayed up all night. In fact, he refers to this in an odd little way as a reason he's not sure about things. He says they stayed up most of Thursday night, planning all day Friday, "all day Friday night," making maps and posters, sizing and scaling them (though he also says the posters came from the YES organization and that he just picked them up in Appleton).... "Yeah, I guess, you know, three days without sleep will -- I don't know what else to tell you."

But he's not sure if they knew where his friend was last seen? Wouldn't that be paramount in his mind? It would be where everyone would start looking, I'd think -- knocking on doors, asking people if they'd seen her.

(By the way, did either county say they checked hospitals or ambulance services in the area, to see if a Jane Doe had been brought in? Anyone remember that?)

And now we get to the search -- or not -- of the Avery property. Buting asks if people were assigned to or volunteered to take certain sections.

Hillegas: Yes.

Buting:. And one of those sections included the Avery property?

Hillegas: No, that's not correct.

Buting: So, you did not -- That was not something that was considered, by you, to be an area that should be searched?

Hillegas: By me, I considered it an area that, you know, we definitely should look at. That morning, as you (I think he means "we") were talking, we did not specifically tell anybody to go there. It was more or less the surrounding areas and the counties around there.

Well, why in the world not??! They divided the maps into sections and no one volunteered to go to the Avery property? And Ryan didn't suggest to anyone that they go to the Avery property? They knew she had been there but they didn't suggest to one single volunteer -- until Pam Sturm came along and suggested it herself -- that they go out to Avery Salvage Yard and ask to look around?

Buting asks about Pam Sturm, did Ryan know her, had he ever met her? Ryan denies knowing her but says she might have been there Friday morning: "I took names down, I don't remember who I talked to. Basically, we were in such a hurry, by the time I got back, that I didn't have time to meet and greet with anybody." Basically, again.

Buting asks what time Pam arrived. Ryan says, "Pam showed up maybe an hour or two after everybody else had left." Buting asks if Ryan knew that she was a former private investigator?

Hillegas: At that time, I don't know if I did.

Buging: Did she -- Do you recall her telling you anything about any experience she might have had, with searches?

Hillegas: I don't remember that. I don't know.

Buting asks if Ryan, hearing Pam's suggestion that she search ASY, discussed whether she should get permission, or what her procedure should be, or anything of that sort?

Hillegas: I don't remember that. I really don't remember what was discussed. Basically [yet another "basically!], that she wanted to go in there and just said, well, if that's what you want to do. I wasn't going to tell her no, but I, specifically, didn't want to tell anybody that they should either, but.

Buting: But you were coordinating all this, right?

Hillegas: Yes.

Buting: So there wouldn't be overlap?

Hillegas: Yes.

Buting asks if Ryan discussed with her that the police might be searching that area and you should check with them? Hillegas gave his by now familiar non-committal answer: “I do not think so. I guess I'm not real sure, though. I don't believe so.”

Then we come to his giving Pam Sheriff Jerry Pagel's personal number, which was on the card Pagel had given Ryan.

Buting: Is she the only one you gave that personal number to?

Hillegas: I believe so.

It's my opinion, he darn well knew so, but he hedges his answer, so as not to be definite.

A cynic, or a someone suspicious of how tidy this all seemed, might suggest that the reason Pam Sturm arrived late, long after all the other volunteers had left, was so that, when she suggested searching the Avery property, there would not be other searchers there to volunteer to go along, as in: "What a good idea! We'll go, too; it will speed things up if there are several of us looking through that salvage yard and all those cars!"

Buting asks Ryan if, after the RAV4 was found, he ever went to the Avery property and when it was.

Hillegas: Geez, when did we go there? I'm not real sure on the dates. It was possibly that Monday or Tuesday, which would have been, let's see, was that the 6th or 7th, that Monday?

He went there, he says, to search. But it's unclear why they would enter Avery property, when he says they went into the "very outskirt areas of the enclosed areas ... walked a flat winter green field with nothing in it ... walked across the road ... I believe it was public land, just forested, and fields by some houses."

He admits he was allowed past the police checkpoint "after we kind of got a land assignment." Buting asks if the officers who let him in knew he was an ex-boyfriend of the missing woman. Ryan's answer: "I don't know if anybody knew I was an ex-boyfriend of hers. I guess I never saw the relevance in it."

Buting: Did Sheriff Pagel know that?

Hillegas: What's that?

Buting: Did Sheriff Pagel know of your relationship with her?

Hillegas: I don't believe so. I think everybody just assumed I was a good friend.

And later, on redirect by Buting, asking again about the searches:

Buting: And I'm sorry, I don't remember, but by that point had you told Sheriff Pagel that you were her -- Teresa's former boyfriend?

Hillegas: I don't know. Like I said earlier, I really wasn't, you know; I guess I didn't tell too many people about it. It never really occurred to me that it was an issue. And it was quite a while ago, that we dated.

Buting: But you were still seeing her as recently as the day before, that she disappeared, right?

Hillegas: Yes.

Buting: And Sheriff Pagel knew that?

Hillegas: Yes, I believe so.


Wiegert interviewed Ryan Hillegas (image above) around 10 AM on November 4th when he was with Pagel at Teresa's home (it is the only document entered into evidence of an interview with Ryan by law enforcement).

Ryan Hillegas committed perjury when he testified under oath that he and Scott were interviewed together, in the same room (day 2, page 188):

Q. Did the police interview you and Scott together, or did they put you in separate rooms when they talked to you, or how did they do that?

A. I believe we were -- I believe we were in the same room.

Scott, along with Teresa's parents and some unnamed friends (Lisa and Kelly), were interviewed around 6:30 PM on November 3rd in the house that Scott shared with Teresa (CASO, page 7). Ryan was not with them in the house, let alone in the same room, when questioned. In fact, Ryan and Scott were interviewed 15 hours apart, on completely different days, per CASO.