Carmen Boutwell was a 25-year-old woman who died in Manitowoc County on the day that Teresa was reported missing, 11/3/05. Pfeffer funeral home, where her body was taken immediately after her funeral on 11/8/05, is owned by Mike Bushman's wife. Retired MTSO deputy Mike Bushman lead the team that discovered the potential burial site on Kuss Road on November 11/7/05 (he ran the K-9 unit until his retirement and then became a reserve deputy for MTSO). Bushman was one of the deputies who arrested Avery in 1985 for the sexual assault of Penny Beernsten. Also, he was the first deputy to respond to the 1999 hit-and-run death of Ricky Hochstetler.
#MakingaMurder #OnThisDay 2005 TH bones apparently found on ASY. CB funeral her cremation to follow after service, WCCA logged CB’s dismissed charges. CB family would not receive her cremains for weeks after service. - Novias, Twitter, November 8, 2017
#MakingAMurderer #onthisday 2005— Novias (@novias_info) November 3, 2017
CB - 8:30 am found dead
TH - 5:30 pm reported missing
StevenAvery - 6:34 pm listed as MURDER suspect
Details on Carmen's death at the 32-minute mark in the video above.
There is simply no evidence that bones were found during the investigation. No one documented the bones on site at any of the three locations where they were allegedly found. Not a single photo exists. No one documented the “charred material” before it was shoveled up and tossed into boxes. The FBI and crime lab reports didn’t even designate the shin bone as bone. If true that no bones were found, one can only speculate about the origin of the tissue sent to the labs. Clearly there were problems identifying the remains as Teresa Halbach’s, though one wouldn’t know that from trial testimony or media reports. The defense accepted Culhane’s report as proof that Teresa’s body was found. How can it be trusted when there is a huge problem with the chain of custody? If Dr. Eisenberg shipped it directly to the FBI as stated, how did Culhane test it at all?
The fact is the remains (if there were any found to begin with) were never conclusively identified and that means the fraud in this case may be much bigger than anyone could have imagined. Hopefully at some point Avery’s attorneys will look into this matter. It is too important to overlook. [Source]
Dead/Missing/Framed
What was really going on in Manitowoc?
November 3, 2005 was a seemingly busy day for Manitowoc and surrounding areas. Carmen Boutwell was found of a suspicious drug overdose that morning at approximately 8:30 am. Teresa Halbach is reported missing later that day at approximately 5:00 pm and Steven Avery shows on the Global Subject Activity Report Summary as HOMICIDE SUSPECT at 6:34 pm.
Can these three events be connected? It certainly looks as though they can.
In October of 2004 Steven Avery had filed lawsuit in regards to his innocence of the 85 case where he was falsely accused of rape. This was also around the same time frame that TH started working for AutoTrader and one of her clients was Steven Avery. She had been to his property many times leading up to her disappearance.
When we look at occurrences that happened leading up to year after the law suit being filed a deposition was taking place those mentioned below had been thru the deposition process.
05/12/05 - Special Agents AL and DS are deposed regarding SA 1985 case. AL testifies that "it appears that there was no real investigation done," and the police "had a suspect and they were going to make it work." Special Agent DS also states that "the sheriff told the DA not to screw this one up because the sheriff wanted SA convicted of this crime." http://stevenaverytrial.com/
09/08/05 - DJ, Assistant DA for Manitowoc County, has a telephone conversation with Chief Deputy Gene Kusche. In that conversation, GK tells DJ that Sergeant Andy Colborn disclosed that Gregory Allen might be responsible for Avery's 1985 conviction, denoting that GK might have known Steven Avery wasn't guilty. 09/22/05 - MR, Manitowoc County District Attorney, is deposed and acknowledges communications with Sergeant AC and Lieutenant Jame Lenk regarding SA’s case. He states that he provided this information to the Attorney General's office, but no record exists of MR doing so. He also confirms that DJ spoke with GK regarding the 1995 phone call. 10/11/05 - Lieutenant JL is deposed and acknowledges the phone call from Brown County in 1995. 10/11/05 - Sandra Morris is deposed regarding her 1985 complaint against Steven Avery. 10/13/05 - Sheriff Ken Peterson is deposed and denies any knowledge of evidence that could have cleared Steven Avery of the 1985 conviction. 10/13/05 - Sergeant AC states under oath that he doesn't recall speaking with anyone else regarding SA case. 10/13/05 - Judy Dvorak is deposed and acknowledges that she suggested that SA looked like the description provided by Penny Beerntsen 10/26/05 - Chief Deputy of Manitowoc County, GK, provides deposition regarding why his sketch used in the 1985 PB case (supposedly drawn based on PB memory of her attacker) looks nearly identical to SA mug shot from January 1985. GK denies that he had access to the mug shot before making the sketch. GK framed the sketch and displayed it for nearly 20 years. GK also questions the validity of the DNA evidence in the SA case.
October 10, 2005 - was this the test run?
1. Warrant issued October 10, 2005 for Carmen Boutwell's arrest
https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;jsessionid=1FB01A0C071E340DB6CD1315968E172E.render6?caseNo=2005CF000341&countyNo=36&cacheId=A5587DAFB43FFED9A7E1F5AE65F0597E&recordCount=6&offset=3&mode=details&submit=View+Case+Details
2. Warrant filed Oct 10, 2005 for Carmen Boutwell
Warrant served Oct 12, 2005
Bail/Bond Hearing Oct 13, 2005
Initial appearance Oct 17, 2005
Notice entered Oct 2005 - Review is set for Nov 3, 2005 @ 8:30 am
3. Teresa Halbach is scheduled with AutoTrader and has an appointment with SA at salvage yard.
4. Ryan Hillegas - speaks with TH over the phone for 17 minutes the evening of Oct 10, 2005: note he called or received calls from TH (If you look at the phone records of RH you will see a pattern Oct 10/11 & Oct 30/31
RH phone record call patterns do seem quite similar for both Monday the 10th and Monday the 31.
Monday October 10 2005 8:13 AM Voice
Monday October 10 2005 3:53 PM Incoming Mrc
Monday October 10 2005 5:45 PM 2 DM
Monday October 10 2005 6:20 PM Incoming 17 TH
Monday October 10 2005 6:46 PM MK
Tuesday October 11 2005 6:40 AM MK
Tuesday October 11 2005 7:56 AM Oshkosh
Tuesday October 11 2005 11:31 AM MK
Tuesday October 11 2005 11:43 AM Outgoing TH
The Fateful final 48 hours:
October 30 2005 1:26 PM 1 SB
October 30 2005 1:35 PM 2 SB
October 30 2005 3:30 PM 1 VIDEO
October 31 2005 9:10 AM Incoming 8 DM
October 31 2005 9:41 AM Incoming 2 Unknown
October 31 2005 3:48 PM 1 Voice
October 31 2005 3:50 PM CM
October 31 2005 6:01 PM Incoming 2 Unknown
October 31 2005 6:02 PM Incoming 23 Unknown
October 31 2005 6:25 PM 3 Unknown
October 31 2005 7:19 PM Incoming 3 Unknown
October 31 2005 7:36 PM 2 Unknown
October 31 2005 7:37 PM 2 SB
October 31 2005 7:47 PM Incoming 5 SB
What was Carmen Boutwell doing leading up to October 31, 2005?
Prior to October 31, 2005, CB had met with Law Enforcement days prior to her death. Her grandmother had driven her to an out of the place location where they met LE and CB sat in the back seat of LE’s car refusing to tell them what they wanted to hear. She was nervous and anxious about this meeting.
On the day of October 31, 2005, CB's family tells me that she was attending school in prep to attend college and had came home for lunch that day and spoke with her mom about what she was doing for Halloween. CB loved Halloween and she loved shelling out candy to the local kids. She told her mom that she was staying home that night and would look forward to her mom stopping by with her little brother in costume. Unfortunately she never spoke with her again and did not make it over that night to see her.
On the day of October 31, 2005, TH is working her Monday at AutoTrader and has an appointment at salvage yard with SA to take photo of his sister's van.
October 31 Timeline detailed on reddit (angieb15) with many great links as reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/4kvwfc/october_31_2005_timeline/
November 3, 2005
On November 3, 2005, at approximately 8:30 am, CB is found dead. CB lived in an upstairs apartment and her grandmother lived downstairs. CB’s grandmother had gone upstairs and knocked on the door to wake CB and she did not answer. A few minutes later an unknown female alerted CB’s grandmother that CB may be dead. The grandmother went upstairs where she found CB sitting on the floor leaning against the stereo and unresponsive. MSCO was contacted and responded. Conversations between MCSO and CB’s family immediately ensued and her family was told she had OD’d. The family, of course, was devastated. MCSO immediately discussed that they would assist the family with her funeral arrangements. The family had paid for CB’s funeral, however. Even before CB's body was removed from her apartment MCSO told the family that they should have her cremated. They advised the family that an autopsy would be done immediately and that they would help with the arrangements for cremation. The autopsy was completed November 4th and CB’s funeral was November 8th. Her family remembers placing her in the back of the hurst shortly after 1 pm on November 8th, where she was taken to be cremated. It took 3 weeks for her cremains to be returned to the family. CB’s family questioned her death a few times to LE and were told that she was a drug addict and to get over it, and that finding her killer was virtually impossible. LE never investigated CB suspicious drug death! MSCO stated in the news article that the case was still open.
On November 3, 2005, at approximately 5:00 pm Teresa Halbach is reported missing.
Timeline detailed on reddit (angieb15) with many great links as reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/4kwb3d/november_3_2005_timeline/
On November 3, 2005, no time listed on report for Teresa Halbach's RAV4. It is listed as in custody on November 3, 2005.
Source link page 3:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/MTSO-Summary-Report-on-Homicide-Investigation.pdf
On November 3, 2005, at 6:34 pm, approximately 2 1/5 hours after TH missing person report was filed, SA was documented as TH murder suspect. NOVEMBER 3, 2005 @ 18:34 hours Global Subject Activity Report
On November 3, 2005, Dave Remiker - Report shows that he was not working on November 3, 2005:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/CASO-Investigative-Report.pdf#page=1032
This is where I would love to see CB investigation paperwork as Dave Remiker says he was on this case but he seems to be MIA that day and then was recorded as being involved in SA case.
On November 3, 2005, at 10:00 pm the breaking news of TH missing, WBAY:
http://wbay.com/2016/01/07/video-nov-3-2005-teresa-halbach-is-missing/
November 4, 2005
On November 4, 2005, because MSCO had removed the same coroner that would be walled off from SA case, CB was driven 2 hours drive to Waukesha County Morgue. Her autopsy was done by DPK MD Forensic Pathologist & TH Forensic Autopsy Assistant. This autopsy was done Nov 4th, 2005. The autopsy report shows her organs were shown as normal. That is not condicative to someone who is a “druggie” along with the low numbers showing of methadone & alcohol. What is questionable is the mention of markings and their locations, and that she was more apt to have died from suffocation/strangulation rather then OD. During the autopsy, tissues and samples were taken and stored, and also there was a DNA card made for her. (NOTE: the coroner DK had contacted CB family daily, always saying how sorry she was her last day calling. She called 3 times, with the last conversation being that she was removed from the case; she stopped contacting the family.)
On November 4, 2005 at 10:00 am - Pam Sturm sees news featuring TH. Page 197:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Jury-Trial-Transcript-Day-2-2007Feb13.pdf#page=197
On November 4, 2005, between 3:10 - 7:25 pm, Ryan Hillega speaks with LE 22 times. Page 54:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Avery-8-26-16-Motion-for-Post-Conviction-Scientific-Testing.pdf#page=54
On November 4, 2005, at 4:00 pm, DB & SB arrive at salvage yard, speak with SA, leave a missing person flyer. Page 214:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Jury-Trial-Transcript-Day-1-2007Feb12.pdf#page=214
On November 4, 2005, between 7:30 - 8:00 pm, SA's brother sees headlight near the quarry while leaving for Crivitz and calls SA. See report:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Steven-Avery-Interview-Report-2005Nov05.pdf
Timeline of activity, Nov 4, 2005, TH missing person case:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/4kwcwi/november_4_2005_timeline/
When you go back and look at CB court documents, the following stands out:
November 8, 2005 - Motion and order of dismissal ordering the action dismissed without prejudice because the defendant is deceased (that is 5 days after she died, that is the very day of her funeral, that is the very day the supposed bones were found on the salvage yard). In none of CB's other court documents is it logged that she was deceased until the following year, and 2 documents actually still don’t show her as deceased.
Have I gotten your attention yet?
[–]August141981[S]
Frightening isn't it...I've been deep deep down in the CB rabbit hole, all the fluff that KK made in regards to DNA and such is just that. This Information and more has been turned over to proper authority and I can't wait for that ship to sink and those responsible for this heinous crime are made accountable
They framed them, they shamed them and they stole their lives.
I was sickened by what they did to SA x2. I was horrified by what they did to BD. I'm frightened by what they did to CB. These are people who are supposed to be looking after "we the people" and for decades they've only been looking after themselves. it's disgusting
[–]angieb15
Can you say where you got all the details? Because some of this is previously unknown and fascinating...
[–]August141981[S]
Direct connections to CB, and it's both fascinating and frightening thru many months and tons of reading and telephone conversations. Working with some really great thinkers. I surely couldn't have gathered all on my own but was encouraged to post this here and hope to gather further thoughts and information.
[–]Redditidiot1
I am interested in her sitting in the car with LE and not telling them what they wanted to hear. What did they want to hear?
[–]August141981[S]
It is believed that DEA was there at the meeting as well. I am convinced that CB knew something or was being pressured for something and refused to play the game or was silenced.
I believe from my information gathered that this is a case of 1 dead, 1 missing, and 2 framed.
[–]Redditidiot1
Are you implying something with "one dead and one missing" rather than two dead?
[–]August141981[S]
One is dead and one is missing. I'm not implying anything. CB is confirmed and documented as deceased; TH is reported missing: there is no proof of rape/torture/mutilation or murder, no body fluid/blood, no damage to the bed where supposed rape took place. Heck car-char-ski the officer I refer as "dopey" sat on the very bed of the crime scene and took notes while the other 2 idiots packed up the evidence they just planted.
And it all started with a sweaty narcissistic story teller, and we're all still rooting, searching for the murderer that we were told about.
[–]August141981[S]
I don't live in USA but certainly hope to one day meet CB family; a bond is created now, and, no matter the outcome, her death needs to be investigated by trusted authorities.
[–]August141981[S]
The drug unit was aware of the candy man since 99. MSCO had no interest or want to investigate CB death. They are great at creating lots of noise and confusion. CB family was dismissed purposefully by MSCO.
[–]seekingtruthforgood
In the comments it discusses a reduced sentence handed down to the alleged boyfriend of CB. She was prohibited from having contact with him as part of her own criminal proceedings. Interesting is that he escaped out of jail just before her death. He was not picked up again until after her death. The comments question a prior reduced sentence given to him and whether that sentence was reduced in exchange for being an informant. If so, the poster is questioning whether CB's death was not investigated because their own informant, who escaped from jail, may have been the source of the drugs one that killed her. This theory makes a lot of sense to me in terms of LE wanting to avoid the bad press and liability associated with their own confidential informant. He, btw, is in more recent news and is going to prison for other offenses.
[–]August141981[S]
I assure you CB did not look like the photo in the news article. The photo her mom was holding was of her a few years younger. Yes, she resembled the photo somewhat but that was not her look when she died.
[–]foghaze
I can confirm this. I've seen the pic too. They looked nothing alike anymore and she could not have pulled off posing as Teresa. So I hope those who are leaning in this direction can see how that scenario would be impossible.
FYI the markings on her throat are a bit suspicious but, after further research, seem to be common. I really don't know what to think about her connection, if there is one, anymore. I'm leaning more to no connection TBH.
[–]stateurname
Did you have a previous post about a certain guy who had a court date schedule for a certain time? Can't recall, but CB's friend at the time?
[–]August141981[S]
If you are referring to first name rhymes with Mary you quite likely read my posts here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/53o8cu/them_dry_bones/?ref=search_posts
[–]foghaze
Yes his name was Gary Kreie. According to her family they weren't really friends. They didn't even know who he is but for some reason, MTSO ordered her to stay away from him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TickTockManitowoc/comments/4lkfbv/the_curious_case_of_boutwell_kreie/
[–]stateurname
Out of all this mess, I hope the friends around CB have been able to get clean and out of the area.
[–]August141981[S]
I believe we will see change; this is a lot for many of them. Some have, some are and hope others will find the strength to direct themselves in positive ways.
[–]August141981[S]
Thank you fog and I appreciate your input as always.
[–]foghaze
Thank you fog and I appreciate your input as always.
Your welcome. One thing I do find strange is how she was taken to the coroner in Waukesha and how they made her get an autopsy when none was needed. It's odd how they immediately called it an overdose when they couldn't have actually known this. The coroner she was taken to was connected with another corrupt cop case that had recently happened as well in another county but he testified for the defense. It's pretty interesting because a cop shot this guy in the head and some of the cranial pieces were missing according to him. They were apparently on the ground but he claims he never got them. Crazy huh? You can kinda see where I might be going with that. I will get that info to you when I have the chance.
Also when I look at the very little amount of drugs in her system compared to the BAC level I cannot see how she died but I think it's possible had she never taken methadone before. I'm no expert at all but the levels of methadone in her system appear very low. However, if this is coupled with alcohol it does make a difference. I do suspect that it's possible she got it from LE.
The deeper I dig the more it looks like the entire state is corrupt.
[–]August141981[S]
mb jr is who you are referring?
yes another interesting case
[–]foghaze
mb jr is who you are referring?
I can't remember the names or details. It was a while back when I researched all this but it was a corrupt cop case where he pulled a guy over who was supposed to be in court testifying against him in a few hours. Something like that. The cop straight up killed him for no reason at all at close range. He was unarmed.
[–]solunaView
Have you found any maternal relatives that could link CB and TH? Even distantly?
[–]ControlOptional
I looked back all the way to ancestors several generations and found nothing.
[–]solunaView
Still not discounting this. The other thing is with only 7 loci matching, the odds in the regular population are much better like in the hundreds possibly.
The other thing is, we don't know if LE would out and out fake the mtDNA testing. SC has spit on her hands already how much of a leap would it be to just fake a test or three?
[–]dark-dare
It's called dry labbing and it is more common than you think in state run labs.
[–]August141981[S]
I use to work with a retired forensic guy who had a routine. One day I mentioned his habits to him and that is when I found out his previous work was. In the 5 or so years I worked with him NOT ONCE did he cough in his hands.
SC was a nervous nitty for a reason.
[–]August141981[S]
Yes maternal, yes related and distant on father's side (CB father related to TH father).
[–]no_idea_4_names
So that wouldn't count towards mtdna then would it? Thought that was all through the mother's side?
[–]August141981[S]
mtdna means nothing! just more fluff on the prosecution side of things.
The reality is that there is plenty of lies and deceit that was created and executed by the prosecution and the thugs.
[–]August141981[S]
There was an unknown/unnamed female there when CB was found but there were others that left in the night.
[–]NewbieDoobieDoo7
Several have asked and you are not answering other than very vague non-answers. Where are you getting this information. 'A lot of research' is not an acceptable answer. Many of us have dug around with nothing close to these details so please provide more information as to your sources, even if you can't name names you should be able to give more info than that.
[–]August141981[S]
I'd love to sing to the world about a girl named CB, but if my information seems vague, then I apologize and you are free to ask anything further. Should I be able to further indulge in answering I will. However, the people I've spoken with I earned their respect and trust and I would not intentionally jeopardize the bond of friendship we have created over these past few months. Sometimes things just can't be said for good reason. CB death has never been investigated, if you catch my drift.
[–]August141981[S]
Spoke personally, yes, as have others & they have been vetted.
Just to be clear, I'm not a lone wolf, and I'm not a "you heard it hear first kind of person."
Foghaze is one of a small group of people who has been introduced to some of the sources.
It's going to go down like domino's.
[–]NewbieDoobieDoo7
So people close to the CB case think that there is a link between her and THs death?
[–]August141981[S]
All who have directly connected ourselves to CB and those who knew her say this. "If CB is not connected to this, Her death requires a complete and trustworthy investigation"
We will all support it and demand it.
[–]NewbieDoobieDoo7
And I would say either way, she needs a complete and trustworthy investigation.
But I'm sure that's what you mean :)
[–]August141981[S]
absolutely! :)
[–]covertoperations911
This is a fantastic post - such incredibly important information. I can't thank you enough for sharing all of it with us and for giving the Boutwell family a voice. The revelations about the autopsy and the cremation are astounding.
Boutwell wasn't simply being processed through the courts, she was on the radar of the federal security services - and for reasons that remain unknown even today.
According to the information you've gathered, a number of people were present in and around Boutwell's residence on Nov. 2 and Nov. 3. There were the unidentified persons who "left in the night" on Nov. 2. The following day, Kreis or an alleged associate is seen outside her home. Later, Boutwell's grandmother is told that she "may be dead" by an unidentified female. What was going on at her house that night?
I'm absolutely floored. Something evil was happening in this county in October-November 2005.
[–]August141981[S]
Something evil has been happening there for decades.
She was a young girl who had friends over: that is not out of the ordinary, but what happened to her and what led up to her death is not ordinary and should absolutely be investigated.
If we allow fear of speaking up and speaking out prevent us from exposing truth!
Then evil wins
[–]lilypadbitch
Evil shall not win if those who know the truth come forward and stop the cycle of corruption. It is like a family with a hidden secret and no one wants to expose it because then everyone will know the sins of the family.
I think there are more secrets that the state of WI does not want the rest of the country to know about but I bet we are all guilty of the same corruption.
Sad to say but this goes all the way to the top of our leadership here in the US.
[–]August141981[S]
your absolutely correct from what I've seen, and it isn't just this case; there are many others of the like. This doesn't happen unless you have higher ups either covering or involved...when it comes down to it if they have kept these secrets this long they are responsible.
[–]lilypadbitch
What was CB doing leading up to October 31, 2005 Prior to October 31/05 - CB had met with LE days prior to her death. Her grandmother had driven her to an out of the place location where they met LE and CB sat in the back seat of LE’s car refusing to tell them what they wanted to hear. She was nervous and anxious about this meeting. August141981
What LE was involved in meeting with her? What was the reason for her to meet with them?
If we knew more about what CB and TH where doing months before Oct. 31st it could tell a lot about what happened to both of them. What was going on in their life prior to Oct 31?
Thank you for posting August141981. I have been waiting to see your insight to the CB connection.
There is some disturbing stuff going on in the shadows of this investigation. This is no coincidence to the connections of events. I believe there is some deep organized criminal activity going on in WI that they are desperately trying to keep hidden.
[–]August141981[S]
Thanks for letting me high jack your thread awhile back. I've dipped my toes in this CB conversation or at least attempted since late Jan, early Feb and, well, conversations never ended nicely or no one was just open to discuss. I was thankful for the open conversation.
We can't be 100% certain. So open conversation is really helpful to us all. Fact finding and then creating our own understanding of the case.
[–]Redditidiot1
Did you have a different name then? I was mmh150 or cremation of sam mcgee and I believe I was one of the first, if not the first, to bring up CB's coincidental death mid Jan. (I'm not bragging, it's just that people shot me down very quickly and I can't recall your involvement in the discussions, for some reason). Your filling in the blanks of this story is fascinating to me. I have always believed in justice for CB as well as others caught up in this mess.
[–]August141981[S]
yes I used a different name. To be honest I didn't even use reddit in the beginning. I used fb and other venues. I was horrified when I seen previous posts in here from a while back where people were disrespecting my personal space and bombarding comments with my personal full name, who I was, who I associate with. All eager to negatively bash me and discredit the information found. So I stepped away and have recently returned because those I trust encouraged me to do so.
[–]Redditidiot1
If what you say is true then they destroyed her reputation in many different ways and that is horrific to me.
[–]August141981[S]
There is a long list of destruction, there is a long list of those they have pushed around for decades. It's chilling!
[–]Redditidiot1
Does Gary Kreie have a resemblance to anybody? Like GA did to SA? Just curious more than anything.
[–]August141981[S]
his fb page is open, pic's, friends list and posts
[–]skippymofo
Sorry about your experiences on Reddit. But these guys knew you are on the right scent.
[–]August141981[S]
it's sad the world we live in, surrounded by so much hate.
The length people go, and the noise they make, only shows the need for change in our world.
[–]August141981[S]
11 years ago today CB family laid her to rest, amongst all the noise and utter chaos that was thrown into their world. They were kept in a state that they were unable to see everything that was going on outside of their devastation and loss.
[–]August141981[S]
CB was found dead the morning of Nov 3rd. It's listed on her autopsy report as is the date of her autopsy being Nov 4. It's been confirmed and report has been turned over to team Zellner months ago
[–]ahhhreallynow
Any known connections between SB or RH or TH on a social level?
[–]August141981[S]
You mean with CB? No one I spoke with was able to connect any of those 3 with CB.
Making a Murderer: Steven Avery freedom battle boosted by claims FBI evidence 'doesn't prove bones were Teresa Halbach's'
By Siobhan McFadyen
March 11, 2016
Spoiler Alert: Steven Avery's lawyer Kathleen Zellner has been sent new bombshell claims that completely counteract the state's case giving fresh hopes for appeal.
The allegations contained in court transcripts and evidence logs purport to show that Wisconsin state DNA expert Sherry Culhane - sent only "charred material."
On January 20 2006, Calumet County Sheriff Jerry Pagel released a statement to the media insisting the FBI had confirmed the bones were matched to Teresa's.
While on February 7, shamed prosecutor Ken Kratz sent an email to Culhane - who was responsible for analyzing the bones locally - reiterating that statement.
Instead it was a general mitochondrial DNA match connected to a relative of Miss Halbach's mother, Karen Sekorski Halbach.
According to campaigners none of the protocols were followed and the 'bones' found were not logged properly, meaning evidence could easily have been tampered with.
Blogger Amberlea1879 has pored over evidence on the Reddit forum which she says suggests collusion was going on between Ken Kratz and Sherry Culhane.
And she's sent her research to lawyer Kathleen Zellner - who apparently confirmed receipt and is looking into the claims as part of her evidence gathering process.
Meanwhile in another startling piece of research which gives a blow by blow account of the breaches of protocol in the case - another compelling insight shows how the whole thing could now be turned on its head.
"Obviously it appears to be very incriminating, but what is going on with this evidence?
"Why weren’t protocols followed?
"No coroner, forensic anthropologist, arson investigator or photographer was called to the scene when the evidence was discovered.
"They had all of these high paid experts at their disposal and didn’t call on them until after the evidence had been shoveled up and taken to the sheriff’s office.
"The DNA evidence described above is not conclusive.
"How is it even possible for tissue to survive a fire that disintegrated 60% of the bone mass?
"The teeth, which are commonly used to identify a body because they outlast bone, didn’t even survive the fire.
According to Lynne, lab analyst Sherry Culhane issued a report on December 2005 stating that a partial profile was obtained from a charred piece of tissue and that seven of sixteen markers matched Teresa’s standard profile.
She added: "The absence of a chain of custody of the bones is critical because it could very well have rendered it inadmissible. What happened?
"Since the scene wasn’t documented, there is no proof that any bones were ever on the Avery property.
"As well, the Manitowoc County coroner was forbidden from entering the scene and none of the forensic experts were summoned until after the bones had been removed.
"We are to simply accept the word of the state witnesses who claimed to see the bones."
